Top 300 Keeper League Skaters – September 2016

Dobber

2016-09-01

The Top 300 skaters to own in fantasy hockey keeper leagues – September edition. Tweaking tweaking, always tweaking…

 

This month, as with every year, is the month with the fewest changes. Very few free agents signed or trades made since the August ranking. The few players who did join a new team have been adjusted, and there were several small tweaks based on feedback (i.e. I read your comments and take a second look at the player you mention). But otherwise, not a lot has changed.

 

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As always, the rankings consider points this year, their 3YP (likelihood points when they peak), their upside, proneness to injury, how their depth chart looks now and in the future (who is ahead of them/who they play with/coaching style). These are for points-only, and of course – positions are not factored (i.e. a defenseman's offensive upside isn't as high as a forward's).

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Note: +/- 5.0 rating points – consider them equal. Tomato/Tomatto – their respective owners probably rate the one they own higher.

 

 

 

Sep Player Team DEF? Rating Aug July Change
1 Connor McDavid EDM   179.8 1 3 0
2 Sidney Crosby PIT   170.6 2 1 0
3 Patrick Kane CHI   163.5 3 2 0
4 Jamie Benn DAL   160.5 4 4 0
5 Alex Ovechkin WAS   157.5 5 6 0
6 John Tavares NYI   149.1 6 7 0
7 Tyler Seguin DAL   141.7 7 5 0
8 Nicklas Backstrom WAS   139.7 8 8 0
9 Johnny Gaudreau CGY   132.8 9 12 0
10 Erik Karlsson OTT y 132.4 10 11 0
11 Jack Eichel BUF   131.6 11 18 0
12 Vladimir Tarasenko STL   130.5 12 14 0
13 Evgeny Kuznetsov WAS   124.0 13 9 0
14 Blake Wheeler WPG   122.6 14 25 0
15 Claude Giroux PHI   118.8 15 13 0
16 Nikita Kucherov TBL   117.2 16 22 0
17 Evgeni Malkin PIT   115.9 17 10 0
18 Ryan Getzlaf ANA   115.0 18 19 0
19 Steven Stamkos TBL   113.3 19 16 0
20 Joe Pavelski SJS   112.6 20 15 0
21 Anze Kopitar LAK   112.2 21 21 0
22 Artemi Panarin CHI   107.6 22 36 0
23 Ryan Johansen NSH   106.7 23 33 0
24 Nathan MacKinnon COL   106.5 24 24 0
25 Filip Forsberg NSH   105.2 26 37 1
26 Taylor Hall NJD   105.0 27 17 1
27 Phil Kessel PIT   104.4 25 23 -2
28 Sean Monahan CGY   104.2 28 44 0
29 Jakub Voracek PHI   104.1 29 20 0
30 Corey Perry ANA   103.6 30 26 0
31 Brent Burns SJS y 103.4 31 31 0
32 Jonathan Huberdeau FLA   101.8 32 42 0
33 Jordan Eberle EDM   100.7 33 35 0
34 Mark Stone OTT   97.1 34 30 0
35 Joe Thornton SJS   96.8 35 32 0
36 Tyler Toffoli LAK   95.4 36 43 0
37 Mark Scheifele WPG   94.5 37 53 0
38 Tyler Johnson TBL   93.7 38 34 0
39 Alex Galchenyuk MON   93.0 39 50 0
40 Matt Duchene COL   92.6 40 27 0
41 Aleksander Barkov FLA   91.7 41 40 0
42 Patrik Laine WPG   91.5 42 46 0
43 Auston Matthews TOR   91.4 43 41 0
44 Derek Stepan NYR   89.9 44 58 0
45 Gabriel Landeskog COL   89.6 45 54 0
46 Ryan O'Reilly BUF   89.5 46 57 0
47 P.K. Subban NSH y 89.2 47 47 0
48 Jonathan Toews CHI   89.2 48 38 0
49 John Klingberg DAL y 88.3 49 29 0
50 Max Pacioretty MON   88.0 50 51 0
51 Leon Draisaitl EDM   86.9 51 28 0
52 Teuvo Teravainen  CAR   85.3 52 92 0
53 Bobby Ryan OTT   84.4 53 49 0
54 Logan Couture SJS   83.8 54 39 0
55 Kyle Okposo BUF   82.9 55 52 0
56 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins EDM   82.3 56 45 0
57 Kris Letang PIT y 81.2 57 64 0
58 Jaden Schwartz STL   81.2 58 83 0
59 Brayden Schenn PHI   80.7 59 48 0
60 Roman Josi NSH y 78.9 63 78 3
61 Alexander Radulov MON   78.8 60 115 -1
62 James van Riemsdyk TOR   77.7 61 67 -1
63 Mike Hoffman OTT   76.0 62 62 -1
64 Ondrej Palat TBL   75.7 64 71 0
65 Jason Spezza DAL   75.2 65 63 0
66 Patrice Bergeron BOS   74.9 66 60 0
67 Sam Bennett CGY   74.2 67 102 0
68 Derick Brassard OTT   73.8 68 69 0
69 Jonathan Drouin TBL   73.6 69 94 0
70 Oliver Ekman-Larsson ARI y 73.4 70 59 0
71 Nikolaj Ehlers WPG   72.3 71 70 0
72 Kyle Turris OTT   72.1 72 108 0
73 Zach Parise MIN   71.8 73 79 0
74 Gustav Nyquist DET   71.5 74 91 0
75 Milan Lucic EDM   71.3 75 124 0
76 Daniel Sedin VAN   71.2 76 56 0
77 Andrew Ladd NYI   71.1 77 89 0
78 Mitch Marner TOR   69.1 78 201 0
79 Sam Reinhart BUF   69.0 79 77 0
80 Jesse Puljujarvi EDM   68.5 80 55 0
81 Bryan Little WPG   68.4 81 80 0
82 Cam Atkinson CBJ   68.3 82 114 0
83 Rick Nash NYR   68.3 83 88 0
84 Brandon Saad CBJ   68.1 84 116 0
85 Robby Fabbri STL   67.4 85 68 0
86 Jeff Carter LAK   67.4 86 73 0
87 Tomas Tatar DET   67.3 87 101 0
88 Brad Marchand BOS   67.1 88 86 0
89 Nazem Kadri TOR   67.0 89 93 0
90 T.J. Oshie WAS   66.9 90 74 0
91 John Carlson WAS y 66.7 91 120 0
92 Vincent Trocheck FLA   66.4 92 82 0
93 Max Domi ARI   66.3 93 66 0
94 Valeri Nichushkin DAL   65.8 94 105 0
95 Drew Doughty LAK y 65.7 95 99 0
96 Mats Zuccarello NYR   65.4 96 85 0
97 Dylan Larkin DET   65.4 97 90 0
98 Keith Yandle FLA y 65.1 98 107 0
99 Wayne Simmonds PHI   65.0 99 111 0
100 Kevin Shattenkirk STL y 64.9 100 96 0
101 Henrik Sedin VAN   64.2 101 61 0
102 Mika Zibanejad NYR   64.1 102 103 0
103 Dustin Byfuglien WPG y 63.9 103 97 0
104 Chris Kreider NYR   63.3 104 126 0
105 Nino Niederreiter MIN   63.1 105 87 0
106 Mikkel Boedker SJS   62.9 106 65 0
107 Mikael Granlund MIN   62.2 107 133 0
108 Andre Burakovsky WAS   60.9 108 132 0
109 Patric Hornqvist PIT   60.6 109 76 0
110 Ryan Strome NYI   60.0 110 84 0
111 Carl Soderberg COL   59.5 111 118 0
112 Nick Foligno CBJ   59.1 112 113 0
113 Marcus Johansson WAS   59.0 113 106 0
114 Ryan Spooner BOS   58.8 114 109 0
115 Kyle Palmieri NJD   58.6 115 119 0
116 Adam Henrique NJD   58.4 116 152 0
117 Patrick Sharp DAL   58.4 117 81 0
118 Sean Couturier PHI   58.2 118 131 0
119 Nick Bjugstad FLA   58.0 119 128 0
120 Brendan Gallagher MON   57.6 120 100 0
121 J.T. Miller NYR   57.3 121 127 0
122 Alexander Wennberg CBJ   57.2 122 95 0
123 David Krejci BOS   57.1 123 135 0
124 Loui Eriksson VAN   56.7 124 75 0
125 Anders Lee NYI   55.3 125 117 0
126 James Neal NSH   55.2 126 110 0
127 Elias Lindholm CAR   55.1 127 136 0
128 Mark Giordano CGY y 54.9 128 123 0
129 Tyson Barrie COL y 54.5 129 129 0
130 Dougie Hamilton CGY y 54.2 130 165 0
131 Tomas Plekanec MON   53.5 131 122 0
132 David Backes BOS   53.3 132 149 0
133 Charlie Coyle MIN   53.0 133 139 0
134 Rickard Rakell ANA   52.7 134 150 0
135 Victor Hedman TBL y 52.6 135 138 0
136 Kevin Hayes NYR   52.4 136 167 0
137 Shayne Gostisbehere PHI y 51.5 137 137 0
138 Jeff Skinner CAR   51.4 138 148 0
139 Jiri Hudler DAL   51.3 174 130 35
140 Vladislav Namestnikov TBL   51.2 139 162 -1
141 Jakob Silfverberg ANA   51.1 140 169 -1
142 Paul Stastny STL   50.9 141 140 -1
143 Bo Horvat VAN   49.7 142 170 -1
144 Nail Yakupov EDM   49.4 143 112 -1
145 Mathieu Perreault WPG   48.9 144 144 -1
146 Victor Rask CAR   48.4 145 154 -1
147 Aaron Ekblad FLA y 48.2 146 175 -1
148 Reilly Smith FLA   47.3 147 160 -1
149 Jussi Jokinen FLA   46.7 148 141 -1
150 Shea Weber MON y 46.7 149 121 -1
151 Tomas Hertl SJS   46.5 150 125 -1
152 Jean-Gabriel Pageau OTT   46.3 151 173 -1
153 Morgan Rielly TOR y 46.3 152 164 -1
154 Dylan Strome ARI   46.1 153 196 -1
155 Boone Jenner CBJ   45.7 154 143 -1
156 Mikko Koivu MIN   45.7 155 145 -1
157 Duncan Keith CHI y 44.8 156 98 -1
158 William Nylander TOR   44.6 157 197 -1
159 Evander Kane BUF   44.0 158 166 -1
160 Alex Killorn TBL   43.9 159 147 -1
161 Tyler Ennis BUF   43.8 160 158 -1
162 Anthony Duclair ARI   43.7 161 142 -1
163 Alex Pietrangelo STL y 43.7 162 198 -1
164 Henrik Zetterberg DET   43.4 163 104 -1
165 Frans Nielsen DET   43.1 164 161 -1
166 Seth Jones CBJ y 42.9 165 202 -1
167 Oliver Bjorkstrand CBJ   42.6 166 208 -1
168 Sebastian Aho CAR   41.8 167 247 -1
169 David Pastrnak BOS   41.5 168 212 -1
170 Craig Smith NSH   41.3 169 159 -1
171 Justin Faulk CAR y 40.9 170 174 -1
172 Nick Bonino PIT   40.9 171 190 -1
173 Eric Staal MIN   39.4 172 155 -1
174 Pavel Zacha NJD   39.3 173 268 -1
175 Colin Wilson NSH   38.6 175 178 0
176 Pierre-Luc Dubois CBJ   38.4 176 134 0
177 David Perron STL   38.4 177 187 0
178 Jason Pominville MIN   37.8 178 156 0
179 Brock Nelson NYI   37.2 179 157 0
180 Ryan Kesler ANA   37.2 180 179 0
181 Tanner Pearson LAK   37.1 181 172 0
182 Alexander Steen STL   36.9 182 72 0
183 Artem Anisimov CHI   36.8 183 192 0
184 Joonas Donskoi SJS   36.6 184 184 0
185 Mike Cammalleri NJD   36.3 185 153 0
186 Sven Bärtschi VAN   36.0 186 229 0
187 Ryan Suter MIN y 35.5 187 163 0
188 Christian Dvorak ARI   35.3 188 203 0
189 Jimmy Vesey NYR   34.6 189 239 0
190 Curtis Lazar OTT   34.5 190 185 0
191 Nick Leddy NYI y 34.1 191 183 0
192 Sami Vatanen ANA y 33.8 192 182 0
193 Martin Hanzal ARI   33.8 193 171 0
194 Chris Kunitz PIT   33.2 194 199 0
195 Teddy Purcell LAK   33.2 195 168 0
196 Benoit Pouliot EDM   33.0 196 189 0
197 Scott Hartnell CBJ   32.5 197 177 0
198 Troy Brouwer CGY   32.1 198 337 0
199 Tyler Bozak TOR   31.9 199 176 0
200 Calle Jarnkrok NSH   31.9 200 328 0
201 TJ Brodie CGY y 31.6 201 200 0
202 Jordan Staal CAR   31.6 202 209 0
203 David Desharnais MON   31.4 203 194 0
204 Brandon Dubinsky CBJ   30.8 204 188 0
205 Tyler Motte CHI   30.1 205 NR 0
206 Frank Vatrano BOS   30.1 206 280 0
207 Jonathan Marchessault FLA   29.4 207 252 0
208 Justin Williams WAS   29.1 208 191 0
209 Drew Stafford WPG   29.1 209 207 0
210 Cody Eakin DAL   28.8 210 205 0
211 Patrick Marleau SJS   28.5 211 146 0
212 Mike Ribeiro NSH   28.2 212 274 0
213 Joe Colborne COL   28.0 213 283 0
214 Thomas Vanek DET   27.9 214 151 0
215 Carl Hagelin PIT   27.8 215 237 0
216 Ryan McDonagh NYR y 27.8 216 235 0
217 Chris Tierney SJS   27.7 217 180 0
218 Adam Larsson EDM y 27.5 218 213 0
219 Brett Connolly WAS   26.8 219 222 0
220 Anton Stralman TBL y 26.4 220 220 0
221 Rasmus Ristolainen BUF y 26.1 221 193 0
222 Mathew Barzal NYI   25.9 222 232 0
223 Erik Haula MIN   25.7 223 186 0
224 Ryan Ellis NSH y 25.5 224 225 0
225 Torey Krug BOS y 25.4 225 266 0
226 Adam Lowry WPG   25.4 226 226 0
227 Kyle Connor WPG   25.1 227 214 0
228 Michael Frolik CGY   24.7 228 181 0
229 Jake Muzzin LAK y 24.3 229 219 0
230 Mikhail Grigorenko COL   24.2 230 210 0
231 Jori Lehtera STL   24.2 231 217 0
232 Andreas Athanasiou DET   23.8 232 242 0
233 Vladimir Sobotka STL   23.5 233 408 0
234 Anthony Mantha DET   23.4 234 228 0
235 Kevin Fiala NSH   23.3 235 231 0
236 Josh Bailey NYI   23.2 236 255 0
237 Sven Andrighetto MON   23.0 237 224 0
238 Mikael Backlund CGY   23.0 238 261 0
239 Colton Parayko STL y 22.8 239 273 0
240 Dmitrij Jaskin STL   22.8 240 216 0
241 Patrick Maroon EDM   22.7 241 227 0
242 Jared McCann FLA   22.7 242 234 0
243 Tobias Rieder ARI   22.5 243 195 0
244 Mikko Rantanen COL   22.3 244 230 0
245 Martin Reway MON   22.3 245 NR 0
246 Peter Holland TOR   22.2 246 206 0
247 Shane Prince NYI   22.2 247 215 0
248 Sonny Milano CBJ   21.7 248 240 0
249 Cody Ceci OTT y 21.4 249 358 0
250 Marc-Edouard Vlasic SJS y 21.4 250 218 0
251 Radim Vrbata ARI   21.3 437 345 186
252 Nick Ritchie ANA   21.3 251 236 -1
253 Travis Konecny PHI   21.3 252 244 -1
254 Mattias Ekholm NSH y 21.3 253 267 -1
255 Valtteri Filppula TBL   21.2 255 288 0
256 Nikolay Goldobin SJS   21.1 256 248 0
257 Clayton Keller ARI   21.0 254 245 -3
258 Teemu Pulkkinen DET   20.8 257 238 -1
259 Jakub Vrana WAS   20.7 258 250 -1
260 Matt Dumba MIN y 20.6 259 289 -1
261 Hampus Lindholm ANA y 20.6 260 329 -1
262 Brent Seabrook CHI y 20.6 261 204 -1
263 Kerby Rychel TOR   20.1 262 223 -1
264 Tomas Jurco DET   19.8 263 258 -1
265 Jaromir Jagr FLA   19.6 264 298 -1
266 Timo Meier SJS   19.6 265 260 -1
267 William Karlsson CBJ   19.6 266 299 -1
268 Jacob Trouba WPG y 19.4 267 284 -1
269 Ty Rattie STL   19.3 268 264 -1
270 Jason Zucker MIN   19.2 269 398 -1
271 Clarke MacArthur OTT   19.1 270 432 -1
272 Mike Matheson FLA y 19.0 271 412 -1
273 Cam Fowler ANA y 18.9 272 339 -1
274 Matthew Tkachuk CGY   18.9 273 265 -1
275 Alex Tuch MIN   18.6 274 313 -1
276 Brett Ritchie DAL   18.5 275 270 -1
277 Matt Nieto SJS   18.3 276 368 -1
278 Nick Cousins PHI   18.1 277 NR -1
279 Jake Gardiner TOR y 18.1 278 262 -1
280 Charles Hudon MON   18.0 279 277 -1
281 Jake Virtanen VAN   17.9 280 279 -1
282 Joel Eriksson Ek MIN   17.9 281 249 -1
283 Connor Brown TOR   17.8 282 269 -1
284 Justin Abdelkader DET   17.8 283 211 -1
285 Jimmy Hayes BOS   17.8 284 241 -1
286 Devin Shore DAL   17.7 285 281 -1
287 Devante Smith-Pelly NJD   17.5 286 406 -1
288 Kalle Kossila ANA   17.5 287 NR -1
289 Lawson Crouse ARI   17.4 288 330 -1
290 Francis Perron OTT   17.3 289 NR -1
291 Alexander Nylander BUF   17.3 290 287 -1
292 Pavel Buchnevich NYR   17.3 291 272 -1
293 Colin White OTT   17.3 292 334 -1
294 Nick Schmaltz CHI   17.3 293 335 -1
295 Conor Sheary PIT   17.1 295 257 0
296 Marian Hossa CHI   17.1 315 278 19
297 Alan Quine NYI   16.9 311 NR 14
298 Mattias Janmark DAL   16.9 296 253 -2
299 Reid Boucher NJD   16.7 297 282 -2
300 Justin Schultz PIT y 16.7 298 394 -2
               
               
Sep Player Team DEF? Rating Aug July Change
251 Radim Vrbata ARI   21.3 437 345 186
139 Jiri Hudler DAL   51.3 174 130 35
340 Brandon Pirri NYR   14.6 374 291 34
385 Zach Werenski CBJ y 11.3 416 430 31
522 Mark Streit PHI y 2.0 544 582 22
296 Marian Hossa CHI   17.1 315 278 19
297 Alan Quine NYI   16.9 311 NR 14
               
               
               
Sep Player Team DEF? Rating Aug July Change
405 Ilya Kovalchuk UFA   9.3 387 311 -18
308 Anton Rodin VAN   16.2 294 NR -14
309 Brayden Point TBL   16.1 299 292 -10
318 Brendan Leipsic TOR   15.7 309 302 -9
257 Clayton Keller ARI   21.0 254 245 -3
310 Michael Dal Colle NYI   16.1 307 276 -3
311 Hudson Fasching BUF   16.1 308 301 -3
27 Phil Kessel PIT   104.4 25 23 -2

42 Comments

  1. Marc-Olivier Fortier 2016-09-01 at 07:53

    You still have Vesey listed as a Sabre. Also, find it hard to believe his choosing the NYR doesn’t diminish (at least slightly) his value.

    • Dobber 2016-09-01 at 08:15

      Sorry…I missed one (I hope only one?). You are correct, his value should have dipped a little. Next month, I guess. I had this nagging feeling that I was missing one key adjustment and I went over it and went over it and nothing popped out

  2. larrylintz 2016-09-01 at 08:33

    Any chance you could toss out a guess as to where Karlsson would rank, especially vis a vis McDavid, in a one-year league taking into account position scarcity? (My league starts 5 fw, 2 d-men). I also have a thread/poll in the one-yr league forum trying to figure out which is most valuable in our format.

    • mage-users 2016-09-01 at 09:14

      How scarce? I play in a 16 players points only with 7 forwards and 3 d-men. My top 5 is Crosby-McDavid-Kane-Benn and #5 Karlsson. I would be willing to swing for the fence and take McDavid first in points only league. So you can flip-flop Crosby and McDavid here.

  3. larrylintz 2016-09-01 at 09:43

    Usually 16-18 teams in our league so 32 to 36 d-men starting vis 5x 16/18 forwards.
    Crosby had only 3 more points than EK last year. I’m not saying it’s repeatable but EK was actually ahead of Sid for most of the year. If Crosby (or as better egs Pavelski, Gaudreau, Tarasenko, etc.) suddenly qualified for D wouldn’t poolies be tripping over themselves to grab them, arguably #1?
    I don’t know, this is why I’m asking. Maybe someone better at math could crunch some numbers in a points-only one-year league on the relative worth of having a d-man who is a fantastic bet to get 75 or more, vs an elite point-a-game or slightly more forward.
    The reason i single out McDavid is i think he’s the most likely candidate to break 100 this year. I don’t think Kane can repeat, and while i won’t rule out Sid, owning/watching him in the playoffs made me think those days are over. If i thought McD was going to be ppg and no more i’d take EK in a heartbeat due to position scarcity.

  4. Shane 2016-09-01 at 11:07

    I am curious why Sam Bennett is so high on this list. He is stuck behind Monahan, plays 2nd line and 2nd pp unit? I see him comparable to Nylander or Hertl who are way lower on the list.

    • Dobber 2016-09-02 at 09:41

      Yes, comparable to those two. Nice comparables there.

      So – he’s more proven than Nylander and he’s less injury prone than Hertl. Does that count for something?

  5. Clement G 2016-09-01 at 12:18

    I am really wondering why Aaron Ekblad is ranked so low ? The guy is the angular stone of THE most ascending team in the East. He plays like a veteran and his shot pct is amazing for the last 2 seasons. Can someone explain ? I would be happy to discuss or receive comments. I have him in a keeper and wonder if I should let him go

    14 FW points only + 7 Defs Goals 2pts pass 1 pt. + 3 Goalies 2points W 3 pts Shootout.

    Aaron Ekblad
    John Carlson
    John Klingberg
    Roman Josi
    Andre Burakovsky
    Jakub Voracek
    Joe Thornton
    Jonathan Drouin
    Jordan Eberle
    Patrick Sharp
    Sidney Crosby
    Tyler Toffoli
    Wayne Simmonds
    Antti Niemi
    Jonathan Quick

    Need to keep 10 in this already reduced list.

    Have a good day all !

    • Dobber 2016-09-01 at 18:29

      It’s points-only and for the foreseeable future I don’t really see him getting up over 47 or 48 points. But he can certainly change my mind in an awful hurry with a hot start. But he’s a keeper. You let go Sharp, Burakovsky and Niemi for sure. Last drops should probably be Simmonds and then your choice of Eberle or Drouin (faith in Drouin? Or not?)

  6. TONY FILIPPELLI 2016-09-01 at 19:01

    Definitely a keeper this list is someone’s opinion that does not much about hockey, they have Teddy Purcell ahead of TJ Brodie a stud dman.

    • Dobber 2016-09-01 at 19:17

      Definitely a comment that is someone’s opinion who does not know much about reading the introduction.

      I first posted this monthly keeper list in November of 2001. Nobody has done it as long as i have. Welcome to the site, Tony

  7. THeunmistakable 2016-09-01 at 21:33

    Torn. In a keeper league with three keepers and a goal heavy league. I got Forseberg, Gaudreau, and Perry. I got the first pick and trying to get younger from Perry. A) Do I go with Laine over Matthews with first pick? B) Slight chance to get both Laine and Matthews, but it is worth it to trade up and swap out those two for Perry and Forsberg?

  8. Alex 2016-09-02 at 09:07

    Dobber, question for you. What am I missing on Duclair? Why is he ranked so low? I know he had a high SH% of 19% but if you look at the last 4 months – 45gms 25pts 14.9% SH% (high but much more reasonable). I think he showed more in this rookie season than many of the players much higher on the list, i.e. Anders Lee, Reilly Smith, Granlund, Yakupov, Namestnikov, Horvat. He played only 14.5min/gm and has a clear path as a top line winger.

    • Dobber 2016-09-02 at 09:40

      Why don’t you give me a projection for him for each of the next three years and I’ll tell you if/where we see things differently

      • Alex 2016-09-02 at 19:30

        I see him getting between 45 and 50pts this coming season followed by a progression to 60 over the following 2 seasons.

        • Dobber 2016-09-03 at 00:14

          I’m with you there. Maybe not to 60, but it’s reasonable. He’s in that tight area of the rankings where slight tweaks make drastic bumps on the list because so many players get 40-50 points.
          I have him for 41 points in the Fantasy Guide this year. Sophomore slump (mild), weaker lineup, opposition keys on him more, etc.
          If I were to project him for 45 points, his rating would jump to about 51, and that puts him in the Top 140. Because one-year projection has a good impact on the list (immediacy is valuable in keepers, not only because it helps those who need it right away, but it also gives trade value).
          Those four points are probably the biggest discrepancy we have.

  9. Tim 2016-09-02 at 13:48

    I’ve been debating my final keeper (5 total), could use some advice!

    It’s a head-to-head 12-team Keeper league

    My Keepers are:

    T. Hall
    J. Klingberg
    J. Allen
    J. Huberdeau

    Now do I keep Eberle or Voracek?

    Thanks!!

    • Matt Vandenbrand 2016-09-02 at 18:21

      I’d keep Voracek. And personally I don’t think it’s close.

    • Dobber 2016-09-03 at 23:33

      Voracek, though my bias for Oilers would have me think about it longer than I should

    • Scott McGruer 2016-10-07 at 01:48

      I may reconsider this after seeing McDavid and Eberle together in the preseason.

  10. Scott McGruer 2016-09-04 at 00:19

    Thanks for the list Dobber. I’m curious as to why Werenski is on this list at 385 when Provorov and Theodore are nowhere to be found. Popular opinions are suggesting that those two are on better teams and will produce much more than Werenski. Unless there is some criteria I am ignoring in the introduction, I am not sure why this is.

    Second inquiry is about Eichel – I’m guessing you feel he is now way more comfortable playing at this level of hockey and will produce around 65-70 points? I get the feeling that the 15 guys below him will get more points this year, unless once again I am not taking a certain criterion into consideration.

  11. david 2016-09-06 at 11:52

    wow, Hank Sedin out of the top 100. Know he’s dropping, but that much? Esp w Loui there, and they will be the only O options on the team..? Radulov 40 slots higher than Hank? Ill take that bet.
    Also parise out of top 70? He will be much better w Bruce driving the O in Minny.

    • Dobber 2016-09-06 at 11:57

      Hey David, thanks for the comment. I have a couple of quick thoughts
      1. Post your projection for this year for Hank and for Parise. I can tell you mine, and maybe we’ll see where the gap is. Keep in mind that whatever Hank gets this year, in two years it’s probably below 50 points.
      2. I wouldn’t keep Hank in my Keep-12 league. But I’m keeping Radulov. I’ll take the upside and the youth, thank you. And the downside won’t be that big a gap, barring injury (which is a risk for most players).
      3. Loui Eriksson, generally a 55-point player, isn’t going to help Henrik improve by much, let’s not get our hopes up too much!

      • david 2016-09-06 at 12:32

        just curious as you had Hank just outside the top 20 earlier this year (Jan) ..he got 73 a couple years ago and 55 last year, so should be somewhere in there, maybe 60 pts? But understand that older guys slide down the rank. I always thought of him as comparable to Thornton, but Joe’s pts have been much better recent years. Do you think Minny will be significantly more offensive-minded this year?

        • Dobber 2016-09-06 at 23:33

          I think Boudreau has shifted to a more defensive style, based on his last year with Washington and then how things went with Anaheim. So I’m thinking not

          • david 2016-09-07 at 08:43

            as a longtime Parise owner, a long suffering Vanek owner, a EStaal owner who gave up, i am fed up with the O black hole that is Minny! ps just bought the guide (6th year i think), great stuff as ever, thanks!

  12. Prag 2016-09-15 at 12:41

    Any way to get this broken out into position (LW, C, RW, D) ? Or add a column for positions?

    • Dobber 2016-09-15 at 13:33

      Hey Prag, as the intro states – in this type of league, positions don’t matter. I do have a column indicating defensemen though, to make things easier to identify

  13. Joey Beliveau 2016-09-20 at 16:17

    Why is Cam Atkinson ranked so high? I see names under him that I would take over him in my team. Any particular reasons?

    • Dobber 2016-09-20 at 16:39

      I think very highly of him. Right or wrong. Call it a bias, but I like his upside, and his outlook for this year.

      • Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 15:29

        According to your ranking list and the players that were kept in my league and my salary cap space, that would be my list for 1st round pick: 1-Patrik Laine 2-Auston Matthews 3-Jesse Puljujarvi 4-Cam Atkinson 5-Tomas Tatar 6-Valeri Nichushkin (salary unknown)

        Does it make sense?

        Here are my 12 keepers:
        Crosby
        Tavares
        Drouin
        Teravainen
        Trocheck
        Spooner
        Bennet, Sam

        Karlsson
        Doughty
        Shattenkirk
        Deangelo

        Price

        • Dobber 2016-09-22 at 15:31

          Yes, but not Nichushkin now because he’s out of the league for two years

          • Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 15:41

            So with my situation you would take Atkinson with 4th overall?

          • Dobber 2016-09-22 at 15:53

            Are you asking if I would take him over one of the other ’16 draftees? I sure would

          • Dobber 2016-09-22 at 15:54

            Oh wait, you can get Gostisbehere? That’s a no-brainer. Take him.
            My rankings, as I say in the intro, do not take position into account.

          • Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 19:16

            Thanks! That’s what a I needed to hear!

          • Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 22:33

            what if the 3 first picks were Laine, Matthews and Gostisbehere.

            Would you go for Puljujarvi?

          • Dobber 2016-09-23 at 08:55

            Yes

  14. Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 21:05

    When is the next top 300 Keeper League Skaters?

    • Dobber 2016-09-23 at 08:55

      Every 1st of the month, since 2002

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