Ramblings: Chris Kreider and Kevin Hayes re-sign, Evander Kane and a look at prime years (July 23)

Neil Parker

2016-07-23

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Two Rangers re-sign, Evander Kane, Connor Carrick, Radek Faksa and a look at a prime offensive years … 

 

We may not see or hear from Dobber for a few days, as he celebrates the re-signing of his favorite player, Connor Carrick.

Carrick signed a two-year, one-way, $1.5 million deal Friday.

He's the 7th-ranked defenseman in this month's prospect rankings, and Carrick should push for a permanent spot in the top-four group by the end of this deal. He likely signed cheap to grab the one-way deal, albeit after earning it with a sterling playoff run with the Marlies (18 points in 15 games).

Carrick is likely off the fantasy radar in most setups this year, but he's an intriguing player to watch going forward. Dynasty/keeper players should note the penalty minutes he's racked up in the past: 132 in his first full season in the AHL, and 15 minutes through 16 games this year with the Maple Leafs.

 

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Chris Kreider inked a four-year, $18.5 million contract extension to avoid arbitration Friday. It'll carry an average annual salary cap hit of $4.625 million.

Mike talked about Kreider yesterday, and I touched on him Tuesday.

Summarizing the two takes, we both really like Kreider. He needs more ice time, and he needs to shoot more to up his goal total into the 25- to 30-goal range.

Mike highlighted Kreider's strong finish:

 

It's an 82-game pace of 31.5 goals and 52.6 points, which would both be career highs for Kreider and more in line with the 30-goal, 60-point benchmark I highlighted Tuesday.

Additionally, as Mike noted, there is a really nice set off peripheral statistics to make Kreider a high-floor target in the middle rounds. While the window for a huge breakout is closing, another step forward is likely next year.

 

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The Rangers also re-signed Kevin Hayes to a two-year, $5.2 million contract with an annual average cap hit of $2.6 million Friday.

Hayes burned me last year, as I saw the breakout stretch he finished with in 2014-15 as a sign of things to come. He disappointed on the scoresheet, and he landed in the coach's doghouse a few times during the season. Dropping nine points (45 during '14-15, to just 36 last year) is a big fantasy blow for a player in his second season at age 23.

This sets up as the perfect post-hype situation, though, and Hayes' development might have been more acclimatizing to the rigors of the professional game and developing as player off the ice. We can cast it as such and hope for the statistical development to follow, anyway.

The eye test tells me there is more rookie year than sophomore year in Hayes' game, and I'm willing to buy at the same price tag as last fall. That's free, if you don't remember, but it isn't out of the question to just leave Hayes to the waiver wire, either.

 

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Evander Kane was arrested Friday. At this point, there will be no disciplinary action from the NHL. He will be directed to the NHL/NHLPA Behavioral Health professional for evaluation and counselling, if deemed necessary, though.

Remember, Kane was just cleared from a sexual assault charge in March, which stemmed from a December incident. He was also suspended by the team for a game after sleeping in following attended the NBA All-Star game, and general manager Tim Murray isn't impressed with Kane.

"He's going to have to pick and choose his spots when he goes out a lot better than he does, and he's going to have to behave himself a lot better than he has obviously," Murray said.

"Whether he has done these things or not, or he is guilty of these things or not, it's not something I like getting up in the morning and reading about that's for sure."

 

In fantasy, this is a wait-and-see situation. After the NFL and MLB have handed out lengthy suspensions and been hard on players, the NHL might be inclined to follow suit depending on the severity of the outcome.

Stepping back, though, this is the second organization in under two years losing patience with the talented winger. When your general manager suggests better behavor is needed, there are concerns.

Add the inability to stay healthy to Kane's lack of statistical progression over the past four seasons and there isn't a lot to like about his fantasy stock assuming he remains a middle-round target.

Buffalo has a cast of young talents. Role models, and not loose cannons are preferred, I'm sure.

 

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Once Valeri Nichushkin is inked, Dallas has its roster in place, and it's deep up front.

 

Jamie BennTyler SeguinPatrick Eaves

Mattias JanmarkJason SpezzaValeri Nichushkin

Patrick SharpCody Eakin – Brett Ritchie

Antoine Roussel – Radek Faksa – Ales Hemsky

 

Who knows what the lineup will look like this fall, but there is potential for three offensively capable lines, and potentially four given Faksa's strong finish and playoff run.

 

Faksa likely won't be able to grab a big enough piece of the offensive pie to warrant much seasonal value, but he's in a nice spot with Sharp, Hemsky and Eaves all headed to unrestricted free agency following the 2016-17 season. He's a dynasty buy low following his excellent AHL showing (15 goals, 26 points over 28 games) and strong finish last year.

In a best-case scenario, Faksa transitions to the wing and lands in a top-six role. It might be asking too much right now, though. Most likely, he'll be a fun option in daily contests for about 15 games this year.

 

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Kris Versteeg appears to be heading to the Swiss National League. There's a chance he resurfaces in the NHL at some point in the future because he's just 30 and has modest two-way abilities. But this is almost certainly the end of his days as a fantasy asset.

It highlights the realities of the salary-cap ear, too. Why would a team pay for Versteeg when they can roster a younger and faster player for cheaper. Versteeg will likely make similar bread in Switzerland, if not more.

 

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After suggesting peak offensive years were between the ages of 22 and 26 Tuesday in the comments section, there were some dissenting opinions from Dobber and Striker in the comments. It seemed worth digging deeper into the age ranges and sharing the results.

In no way is this some sort of pissing contest, and the findings suggest age-27 seasons are the peak. But, as Dobber suggested in the comments Tuesday, the age of peak production is lowering, and these results agree.

I also only looked at players with at least 60 points. The idea is looking at the premier offensive players, as age shouldn't be a primary factor when deciding between two guys with your 11th-round pick.

Additionally, I looked at the three seasons since the lockout-shortened 2012-13 season, and the three prior seasons to the lockout.

 

Here are the results:

Players with at least 60 points in a season from 2009-10 through 2011-12

Players with at least 60 points in a season from 2013-14 through 2015-16

 

'09-10 through '11-12

There were 162 60-point campaigns

The average age of a 60-point showing was 27.3

12 players 21 or younger scored 60 points (7.4 percent)

67 players 22 to 26 scored 60 points (41.4 percent)

47 players 27 to 30 scored 60 points (29.0 percent)

36 players 31 and above scored 60 points (22.2 percent)

17 players scored 60 points in all three seasons, and their average age was 27.8

 

'13-14 through '15-16

There were 146 60-point campaigns

The average age of a 60-point showing was 27.4

The average age of a 60-point showing excluding Jaromir Jagr was 26.8

Nine players 21 or younger scored 60 points (6.2 percent)

57 players 22 to 26 scored 60 points (39.0 percent)

52 players 27 to 30 scored 60 points (35.6 percent)

28 players 31 and above scored 60 points (19.2 percent)

17 players scored 60 points in all three seasons, and their average age was 27.1

 

Quick Notes

Patrick Kane, Alex Ovechkin and Anze Kopitar are the only three players to score 60 points in all six seasons. Their average age was 25.3.

The 22-26 range is a year larger than the 27-30 range.

Jaromir Jagr's a machine and throws off the results.

Nikita Kucherov and Johnny Gaudreau were the only players to register 60 points at 21 or younger who weren't a first-round pick.

Erik Karlsson, Filip Forsberg, Jordan Eberle, Kucherov and Gaudreau are the only players 21 or younger who weren't top-10 picks to score 60 points.

There were 19 60-point seasons (6.2 percent) from players 35 and over during the two time spans.

44.2 percent of all 60-point showings came from players aged 24 to 28.

64.3 percent of all 60-point showings came from players aged 22 to 29.

 

Parting thoughts

I'm very much willing to be a year early than a year late when investing an early round pick on an older player. We've seen the freefall from fantasy relevance hit a number of veterans almost out of nowhere.

With that said, star power and talent always wins out, if we're sticking to the truly elite talents, they're capable of producing at a high level later into their careers than others. Obviously, I know, but still notable.

When looking at young players, there is a strong correlation between draft position and early results. Again, another obvious observation, but we're teased with the potential of first-round picks cracking rosters annually. It's so rare for them to actually move the fantasy needle at a young age that it should be reaffirmed.

I'm gobbling up as many players aged 22 to 28 as possible.

 

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Here's a quick read on Henrik Borgstrom. He's focused on adding muscle to his 6-foot-3, 176-pound frame during his freshman campaign at the University of Denver. Read more about Borgstrom in his DobberProspects profile.

 

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Adam Proteau shared a nice viewpoint on how advanced statistics should be presented. It seems like the stance most of you Dobberheads take, and it's well worth the read.

It certainly does align interestingly with Brad Richards' comments about the north-south game and putting everything on net. Don't worry about Richards, though. He's doing just fine.

 

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Enjoy the weekend, Dobberheads.

 

 

8 Comments

  1. Striker 2016-07-23 at 08:40

    Eaves is a specialty player. Barely plays 5 on 5 but see’s decent power play time. Ruff likes to shake it up occasionally but for the majority of the time what you see is what you get.

    Benn, Seguin, Sharp.
    Janmark, Spezza, Nichushkin.
    Roussel, Eakin, Hemsky.
    Eaves, Faksa, Ritchie.
    Spare. Cracknell.

    Dallas is a fun team to watch play. They like to score but overall; the entire team, they were bad defensively & it’s getting worse not better. Dallas’s D wasn’t great last season & I don’t see how it can possibly be better this year.

    • Neil Parker 2016-07-23 at 08:56

      Eaves is no good, but he finds himself skating with the Benn-Seguin duo a lot. They’ve been his most frequent five-on-five linemates over the past two seasons: http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=118&withagainst=true&season=2014-16&sit=5v5

      I suspect Sharp plays a third-line role in an effort to balance the attack and hopefully be more defensively responsible. We’ll see.

      • Striker 2016-07-23 at 11:44

        Eaves EV TOI/GP for regulars was 11th. Gets just enough time on that line to con you into adding him off the waver wire until he finds himself back down the depth chart. His PP TOI/GP is solid but he leaves you stranded when you need him the most as you never know when the next injury will hit. I try to avoid him like the plague. Ha-ha!

      • Striker 2016-07-23 at 11:58

        It will be nice to see Sharp, Hemsky & Eaves move on. Dallas has some great young kids ready for added responsibility. The obvious 1’s in Nichushkin & Faksa plus Gurianov, Dickinson, Ritchie & others but this Janmark kid is a hockey player. His skill set has shocked me.

        How this kid never played at the highest levels through his Jr career in Sweden; WJC’s, is surprising & Detroit is seriously going to regret letting this kid go. He & Jarnkrok; ironically moved with Eaves for Legwand, are going to be great 2 way players that will eventually settle into top 6 roles scoring in the 50 to 60 point ranges in or around 20 goals. They could both end up getting pigeon holed into more defensive roles but their offensive skills will hopefully win out long term.

        Detroit has nothing to show for letting either of these players go. Coale & Legwand respectively.

  2. Striker 2016-07-23 at 09:02

    Neil. Well done. Always nice when someone takes the time to extrapolate such data. Selective; 60 points, but nice to read regardless. 60 points puts you in pretty elite company & only gets you 3 or 4 rounds in shallow leagues.

    It wasn’t meant to be a pissing contest. Ha-ha! My pools are all so deep, even most of the pickem pools I go in are at least 15 teams deep with at least 15 players per roster, most larger. The fantasy leagues are 20 team leagues with 24 man rosters protect 12; 240 players, in 2 & 9 in 1. Come draft day were drafting players who don’t have a hope of getting 60 points.

    Only 44 scored more than 60 last season but even in say a 12 team league with 10 skaters per team based on last seasons stats the 120th best player by pure points had 46; Hudler.

    There is no question the overall age of the NHL is declining & proportionately the peak scoring range, far less players play into their late 30’s, & far more younger players are starting their careers sooner. Dobber’s Goldenboy rule comes into play very well in the salary cap era. The cap has for ever altered the game & veterans aren’t seeing the contracts & subsequently the same opportunity as in the past, the game is faster & the nature of injury’s is significant in the change. Hockey is by far the most physical professional sport & they play 82 games & the lack of down time to recover, none existent. The NHL now giving each team a week off next season will be interesting.

    Players used to peak at 28 to 32 no question that # is down today. Like everything there are exceptions to the rule & that’s the key. Monitoring a players opportunity. I lean to veterans as I want to win now & reliability & consistency are key but at the same time if an opportunity exists for a young player I’m all over it. I 1 year leagues not so much but in fantasy leagues it’s about value & even though I may not hold a young player or rookie in high regard others do.

    • Neil Parker 2016-07-23 at 09:11

      Cheers, I appreciate the feedback, and I think everyone appreciates the time you take to share your knowledge. It adds to the content nicely.
      I just took the 60-point bar because it was a small sample to make crunching the numbers easier.

      • Striker 2016-07-23 at 11:46

        Love it when someone else takes the time to break this stuff down. Time is by far my most precious commodity. Have very little. Waste a bunch of it much to the chagrin of my wife & kids. Fantasy hockey freak.

        Love the work, keep it up & tell Dobber to give you more time. Ha-ha!

  3. number54 2016-07-23 at 15:52

    So I took a look at Richards’ comments on the north-south game, and I have to say I whole-heartedly agree with him. I’ve been saying for years that moving to something like the European ice surface would probably bring back that east-west game. I’d also love to see the blue lines move about 2 feet closer to the goal-lines. Those 2 things alone I think could spike goal-scoring by more than 5%. But more importantly, I think the wider surface and longer neutral zone will encourage more of the east-west game. Give them some room to move laterally, and they’ll use it. Give their teammates room to get open, and you’ll buy the passer a second to hold onto the biscuit.

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