Ramblings: Jumbo Joe, Matheson, Sproul, the waiver wire and more (Nov 16)

Dobber

2016-11-16

My philosophy on when to drop players early, plus Thornton, Matheson, Sproul and more …

***

Generally speaking, my philosophy for the first month of the season is to either acquire or hold. I only look to drop a player if there is a player available who I like – then at that point I go over my roster and drop the least valuable one. Notice I didn’t say “biggest dog”. Because when we’re talking about your bottom two or three guys, we’re talking about three players who aren’t really helping your team. So what difference does it make if you drop the player with four points who ‘might’ get 50 or the player with two points who ‘might’ get 45? In terms of impact on your team – none. So the players you keep are going to be the players who other GM’s value. Who cares what you think of him, maybe he can be a deal sweetener in a trade. So I’ll look at three guys who are dogs and if I need to drop one, I’ll generally drop the one with lowest worldwide ownership. Unless I need that position, of course – look to position first, then ownership.

Anyway, I have a lot of faith in my drafting and I’m always looking at the waiver wire and the latest “drops” in the league. So the first month I’m not looking to drop a player, if it happens – it happens. But for the first four weeks I base it on the value on the waiver wire and not on going sour on a guy. If you are sour on a player in Week 2 after five games, then it could cost you. This year I was able to pluck Conor Sheary off the wire. And Jakob Chychrun (it’s a keeper league), who I could use as a deal sweetener with rebuilding teams.

But being patient also makes clear some of your weaknesses a month in. I think a couple of my players are also of concern to you guys so I’ll share my thoughts. Ben Bishop, Tyson Barrie and Derick Brassard.

Bishop – He’s a quality goaltender, truly one of the best, and this is just a little slump. But there’s a problem with that. He has a top prospect behind him. Another problem? He’s also a bit of a lame duck because his team can’t afford to keep him next year so they have little motivation to play him through any slumps while the hot young gun is playing so well. My problem here is compounded by the fact that I also own Jonathan Quick. Right now I’m pretty much riding Cam Talbot – and now you know the reason why I’ve slipped out of first place and will continue to slide until I address the issue. I’m using Quick and Chychrun (see?) as trade bait to acquire a decent goaltender. I won’t be trading Bishop because things will turn out good for him. He’s too strong a goalie for it not to work out. But it’s going to be rough for a few weeks – and perhaps even a few months. He got the win last night, so I guess that’s a start…

For insurance, I have Pavelec, Berra, Ramo, Brossoit and Stolarz. I had Pavelec and Brossoit to begin with – Brossoit as insurance on a Talbot injury and Pavelec I grabbed in September just in case he got traded. I’m glad I did now, given the sudden goalie troubles that have hit. Something will give.

Barrie – I wish I knew what the Avalanche were doing. But no team is this bad – fewer than two goals per game heading into Tuesday. Think ‘Anaheim’ from a year ago. The goals will start happening and Barrie will be key to that. I’m still dressing him, as his modest totals are barely good enough. Now is not the time to trade or shop Barrie.

Brassard – He was acquired to play with Bobby Ryan and he is indeed playing with Bobby Ryan. But the strategy of bringing in a left-shooting center for Ryan isn’t working. Looked good on paper, but hasn’t panned out. Look – 89% of his ES shifts so far (and nearly all of his PP shifts) have been with Ryan. Kudos to the new coach Guy Boucher for pressing forward with this experiment. He’s going all in. But Brassard is a 60-point guy on a 30-point pace. This has gone on for 16 games and even the most patient coach won’t go beyond 20. So either the two of them click by the weekend, or Brassard gets new linemates next week. Either way, the points will come and there will be a market correction.

*

Cam Ward is 3-1-2 in his last six games. He stopped 22 shots for his first shutout in 13 months. Carolina has held the opposition to just 69 shots on goal in the last three games.

Joe Thornton had five points in his first four games…but just six points in his last 12. Anytime he runs into a slump fantasy owners are going to worry. He is, after all, 37. But he’s on pace for 56 and I believe he’ll be in that 60 to 65 range and I think that’s where everyone’s expectations are, pretty much.

*

Is it time to worry about Alex Ovechkin? I say no. Because I think last night’s game will serve as a wakeup call. Ovechkin saw just 14:12 of ice time – and we haven’t seen numbers like that from in years (I went back three years and found nothing lower). He was on the ice for the tying goal and the OT winner by Cam Atkinson. Ovechkin is pointless in his last four. Let’s see how he responds.

*

The Mitch MarnerTyler BozakJames van Riemsdyk line lit up the Preds last night, including four assists by Bozak. Those three now lead the Maple Leafs in scoring – Marner and JVR have 15 points each. Marner had three points in six games to start the year and has 12 in his last 10. Forget Kessel, Bozak has a winger just as good!

Auston Matthews was held without a point again and has just two in his last nine games. He had 10 points in his first six games (i.e. seven more than Marner), but just two in his last 10 (i.e. 10 fewer than Marner).

PK Subban was minus-3 in that game. He has just eight points and is minus-7 in 15 games so far. I seem to remember a lot of people scoffing at my summer position that Montreal’s trade was not horrible. Now even the biggest sceptics must admit – it is not horrible.

*

My picks for coaches to be fired – if three get fired this year, this is the order and these are the coaches:

First – Jack Capuano, NYI

Second – Peter Laviolette, NSH

Third – Willie Desjardins, VAN

If there’s a fourth it will be Paul Maurice.

*

Carey Price’s 13-game win streak and record 10-gamer to start the season – is over. But he didn’t lose it in regulation.

This is why I like Michael Matheson so much (hint: you need to see the final replay angle to see exactly what he did):

📢 advertisement:

*

In his first game with (yet another) his new team, Seth Griffith saw a season high 11:52 of ice time and picked up an assist. He played with Denis Malgin and Colton Sceviour.

*

Nikita Kucherov had three points last night and has five in his last two games. He is tied with Mark Scheifele for the league lead in points with 21.

Another player who is up there in the standings is Steven Stamkos, with 20. But Stamkos may not get a chance – he left the game in the second with a knee injury. No word on severity. Here was the injury:

 

One thing the injury did was put Kucherov back on Tyler Johnson’s line. He immediately picked up an assist. We’re obviously pretty clear on Kucherov’s offensive impact by this point – nothing would get Johnson out of his slump better than a Stamkos injury that keeps Kucherov on Johnson’s line.

*

With two points last night, including his first career NHL goal, Ryan Sproul has four points in six games. Both his goal and his assist were on the power play and that’s more than earned his way onto the roster for next game too. Until Niklas Kronwall returns, Sproul could surprise for the short term.

*

You see this often – a young player with upside gets scratched for lack of effort. He comes back strong with some big games which lead to a nice hot streak. Robby Fabbri scored twice in his first game back and he scored again last night. I had him on my bench last week but after he followed up a healthy scratch with two goals – I made sure he was in my active lineup.

With Fabbri heating up, David Perron heating up, and Colton Parayko (four points, 19 SOG, last five games) heating up – the Blues could be on the cusp of starting a nice little run. Jake Allen owners certainly hope so.

For a full list of hot or cold players, just click the word “hot” or “cold” in any article on this site (that is, if you’re too tired to go all the way to the Frozen Pool section and use the menu there!)

*

Nail Yakupov was a healthy scratch. It’s just not looking good for this guy at all. For his career.

*

Connor Hellebuyck had a 27-save shutout win and has won four in a row. To get that shutout against Chicago, when Richard Panik had five shots, is pretty huge! Yeah, I said the Panik thing tongue-in-cheek. But that’s because Panik never shoots. The five shots give him 26 on the season, he had been averaging barely one shot per game up until that point.

Ho-hum Patrik Laine scored again. He has 12 already. Of note, he played 19:52 to lead all Jets forwards. So he’s already their go-to guy.

*

With Taylor Hall out (LBI – no idea how long), Beau Bennett saw a season high for ice time at 17:17. He also picked up an assist. I suspect that Bennett can be reasonably productive as long as Hall is out, we’re just not sure how long he’s out.

 

 

 

12 Comments

  1. Ian Gooding 2016-11-16 at 01:12

    I would put Willie D at least #2 on the “coaches” list, maybe even number 1. A lot of talk out of Van City that he is game by game. And with a 7-2 drubbing on Tuesday, the Willie Watch doomsday clock is one minute closer to midnight. Tick tock.

    • Striker 2016-11-16 at 08:38

      I have run the schedules for numerous teams who appear to need a new voice behind the bench. Teams generally like to put a new coach in place when the schedule provides a favorable scenario to win a few games following. For Vancouver that is now. They play Arizona in 2 of the next 3. NYI no such grace in on the horizon.

      Nor do I agree with Dobbers entire list. Laviolette is safe. Nashville had a brutal schedule to start the season, no team had a tougher schedule to start the year, their 1st 8 games of the season all against playoff teams from last season 7 of the 8 against the NHL’s power house playoff teams & Poille is nothing if not methodical. I don’t see Maurice in trouble either. Winnipeg has been devastated with injuries right from the drop of the puck in game 1, Trouba just returned & they are playing well regardless.

      The next 3 on my list in no particular order would be Hakstol, Gulitzan; will be given a long lead having just been hired & Bylsma but not until Eichel has returned & only if they continue to play poorly then. I have to think Francis is pretty disappointed with the play of the team in Carolina & Peters has to be feeling some heat.

      • Striker 2016-11-16 at 08:45

        I also can’t stand Peter DeBoer. Drives me crazy but having just been to the cup he’s safe. I have just never liked him but being a Bruins fan have a soft spot for SJ as Thornton is just a solid hockey player, 1 of my favorite all time players. Still lament that trade. Ha-ha!

        I have a ton of SJ players in all my various pools. Pavelski, Thornton & Jones in 1 of my fantasy leagues, Couture & Marleau in another.

  2. Striker 2016-11-16 at 08:23

    I think we need to add Gulitzan to the list. I know he was just hired but he has been brutal. He should be thankful Lou’s not in charge in Calgary or he would already be fired. Has fired better coaches in odder situations.

    I’m starting to think your my brother from another mother. Ha-ha! Those 1st few paragraphs sum up my strategy almost perfectly with 1 minor exception. I’m cutting players I can’t dress that aren’t much better than my back up player at each position for picks so as to secure drops so I can make an add drop for a player I like. At least until the well runs dry.

    I traded Fabbri C; Barakowski LW & Theodore D & a 15th for Teravainen C, Pearson LW & Mattheson D & a 6th. Then flipped Pearson LW & a 14th for Ennis C, & a 3rd. Moved Severson D & a 13th for Wideman & a 4th & then Rantanen RW & a 12th for Horvat & a 5th. Dropped Ennis C, for N. Ritchie LW & Horvat C for Lappin RW in the add drops. C’s are a dime a dozen & my 5 are Pavelski, Thornton, Schenn, Wenneberg & Teravainen. Ideally Paveslki would be a RW, Schenn a LW & Teravainen a LW. Hoping they move in the off season before next season to alter their value but again CBS & their stat provider the Elias Sports Bereau are beyond brutal.

    16 team league, 24 man rosters, dress 14, 3 C’s, RW’s, LW’s 4 D & a G. play 4 games head to head each week. All points offensive. Goals & assists 1 point each, 1 FP for D goals, 1 FP for PPG’s, 2 FP’s for SHG’s & 1 FP for OTG’s. Goalies 2 for a win 3 for a shut out. Protect 9, 2 skaters at each position & a G. Pool is run on CBS who’s positions are terrible. There are virtually no RW’s & the premium to acquire 1 sever.

    I do need to confess though I was very wrong about my Montreal expectations. I had them as a bubble team missing & we debated several times. My personal bias being a Bruins fan? Maybe but I sure look wrong currently. 65 games to go on average. When predicting 30 teams standings position by division, conference & league before the season start even hitting 60% is solid.

    The parity in the NHL has never been stronger. The new draft lottery weightings have curtailed full tanks to some extent. I have the difference between 7th in the west & 12th at 6 points & in the east 7th & 14th at 8 at seasons end. The 2 bottom teams in each division eventually making efforts to tank when they realize all hope is lost.

  3. Jeremy Campbell 2016-11-16 at 09:11

    Brutal slash fest on Gaudreau last night, the third slash made him leave for good, but hopefully he can play tonight. The league can’t let this crap happen, got to protect players especially the stars! Hopefully Stammer and Hall are OK.

    • Striker 2016-11-16 at 11:05

      All players should be protected equally.

      • guyincognito007 2016-11-16 at 12:00

        Agreed.
        Except maybe Matt Cooke. :)

        • Striker 2016-11-16 at 12:17

          Hahahahahaaaa

          There might be a few others

  4. MarkRM16 2016-11-16 at 16:55

    Desjardins would be an obvious scapegoat were he to get fired. I don’t think Scotty Bowman could get the Canucks into the playoffs with their brutal roster. They need to come to terms with the fact that they need to rebuild.
    With Yakupov on the outs in St. Louis, maybe Vancouver should acquire him and see if he can at least become a 20 goal player. If he can’t light the lamp with the Sedins he might as well bail for the KHL I was left scratching my head when the Oilers picked him instead of a D, which was clearly what they needed.

    I’m kicking myself (really hard) that I passed on JVR. I thought the Leafs’ talented young players might suppress his numbers, but they’re all producing, aside from the slumping Matthews, that is. I did think his predicted numbers were too generous, but I wasn’t expecting a slump like this!

  5. horrorfan 2016-11-16 at 17:20

    Are the forums down? I couldn’t get on a few hours ago at work and still unavailable at home on my laptop. It comes up with a database error.

    • Alex MacLean 2016-11-16 at 17:28

      Down for me as well, so it’s not just you. Hopefully it doesn’t take too long to get sorted out!

      • horrorfan 2016-11-16 at 17:41

        Thanks for confirming the same issue. Yeah hope it’s just maintenance and will be sorted out soon.

Leave A Comment

UPCOMING GAMES

Nov 22 - 19:11 PIT vs WPG
Nov 22 - 22:11 ANA vs BUF

Starting Goalies

Top Skater Views

  Players Team
WYATT JOHNSTON DAL
KENT JOHNSON CBJ
JAKE WALMAN S.J
WILLIAM EKLUND S.J
VALERI NICHUSHKIN COL

Top Goalie Profile Views

  Players Team
YAROSLAV ASKAROV S.J
DUSTIN WOLF CGY
PYOTR KOCHETKOV CAR
SEBASTIAN COSSA DET
ALEXANDAR GEORGIEV COL

LINE COMBOS

  Frequency CBJ Players
24.3 COLE SILLINGER MATHIEU OLIVIER YEGOR CHINAKHOV
21.5 DMITRI VORONKOV SEAN MONAHAN KIRILL MARCHENKO
19.1 SEAN KURALY JUSTIN DANFORTH ZACHARY ASTON-REESE

DobberHockey Podcasts

Keeping Karlsson Short Shifts – Regicide

Jeremy and Shams are here to break down all the new injuries and update timelines as well. After all the injury news they close out the show covering all the cold Kings players giving actionable fantasy advice on each one. Lastly, they close out the show the latest hot Russian forward for Columbus that is only 1% rostered on Yahoo right now.

FIND US ON FACEBOOK

📢 advertisement: