Top 300 Keeper League Skaters – August 2016

Dobber

2016-08-03

The Top 300 skaters to own in fantasy hockey keeper leagues – August edition. Guess where Connor McFirstPlace ranks?

This month, all of my projections for the 11th annual Fantasy Guide were uploaded into these rankings. So this is my annual 'audit' of the rankings, in that sense. In keeper leagues, you have to balance the long-term value of players with immediate playoff. This is why a player like Mitch Marner moves up so many spots. I had initially felt that he would not make the team. However, if he does the make the team as I now project, then the immediate payoff for fantasy teams is great. If he gets cut from training camp, then he'll tumble all the way back to 200th spot in October.

So now there is a new king. Connor McDavid ascends to the top of this list for the very first time. And it works out very nicely (not planned, I swear) that the two cover boys of this year's Fantasy Guide are one-two on this list. To take a look at the Fantasy Guide and what is included – click here.

As always, the rankings consider points this year, their 3YP (likelihood points when they peak), their upside, proneness to injury, how their depth chart looks now and in the future (who is ahead of them/who they play with/coaching style). These are for points-only, and of course – positions are not factored (i.e. a defenseman's offensive upside isn't as high as a forward's).

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Note: +/- 5.0 rating points – consider them equal. Tomato/Tomatto – their respective owners probably rate the one they own higher.

Aug	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	July	June	Change
1	Connor McDavid	EDM		179.8	3	3	2
2	Sidney Crosby	PIT		170.6	1	1	-1
3	Patrick Kane	CHI		163.5	2	2	-1
4	Jamie Benn	DAL		160.5	4	4	0
5	Alex Ovechkin	WAS		157.5	6	6	1
6	John Tavares	NYI		149.1	7	7	1
7	Tyler Seguin	DAL		141.7	5	5	-2
8	Nicklas Backstrom	WAS		139.7	8	8	0
9	Johnny Gaudreau	CGY		132.8	12	12	3
10	Erik Karlsson	OTT	y	132.4	11	11	1
11	Jack Eichel	BUF		131.6	18	22	7
12	Vladimir Tarasenko	STL		130.5	14	15	2
13	Evgeny Kuznetsov	WAS		124.0	9	9	-4
14	Blake Wheeler	WPG		122.6	25	25	11
15	Claude Giroux	PHI		118.8	13	14	-2
16	Nikita Kucherov	TBL		117.2	22	23	6
17	Evgeni Malkin	PIT		115.9	10	10	-7
18	Ryan Getzlaf	ANA		115.0	19	18	1
19	Steven Stamkos	TBL		113.3	16	17	-3
20	Joe Pavelski	SJS		112.6	15	16	-5
21	Anze Kopitar	LAK		112.2	21	19	0
22	Artemi Panarin	CHI		107.6	36	35	14
23	Ryan Johansen	NSH		106.7	33	33	10
24	Nathan MacKinnon	COL		106.5	24	24	0
25	Phil Kessel	PIT		105.9	23	21	-2
26	Filip Forsberg	NSH		105.2	37	38	11
27	Taylor Hall	NJD		105.0	17	13	-10
28	Sean Monahan	CGY		104.2	44	47	16
29	Jakub Voracek	PHI		104.1	20	20	-9
30	Corey Perry	ANA		103.6	26	26	-4
31	Brent Burns	SJS	y	103.4	31	29	0
32	Jonathan Huberdeau	FLA		101.8	42	41	10
33	Jordan Eberle	EDM		100.7	35	36	2
34	Mark Stone	OTT		97.1	30	31	-4
35	Joe Thornton	SJS		96.8	32	30	-3
36	Tyler Toffoli	LAK		95.4	43	44	7
37	Mark Scheifele	WPG		94.5	53	56	16
38	Tyler Johnson	TBL		93.7	34	34	-4
39	Alex Galchenyuk	MON		93.0	50	52	11
40	Matt Duchene	COL		92.6	27	27	-13
41	Aleksander Barkov	FLA		91.7	40	42	-1
42	Patrik Laine	WPG		91.5	46	NR	4
43	Auston Matthews	TOR		91.4	41	NR	-2
44	Derek Stepan	NYR		89.9	58	49	14
45	Gabriel Landeskog	COL		89.6	54	53	9
46	Ryan O'Reilly	BUF		89.5	57	59	11
47	P.K. Subban	NSH	y	89.2	47	50	0
48	Jonathan Toews	CHI		89.2	38	37	-10
49	John Klingberg	DAL	y	88.3	29	28	-20
50	Max Pacioretty	MON		88.0	51	51	1
51	Leon Draisaitl	EDM		86.9	28	32	-23
52	Teuvo Teravainen	CAR		85.3	92	113	40
53	Bobby Ryan	OTT		84.4	49	46	-4
54	Logan Couture	SJS		83.8	39	39	-15
55	Kyle Okposo	BUF		82.9	52	40	-3
56	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	EDM		82.3	45	43	-11
57	Kris Letang	PIT	y	81.2	64	61	7
58	Jaden Schwartz	STL		81.2	83	77	25
59	Brayden Schenn	PHI		80.7	48	45	-11
60	Alexander Radulov	MON		78.8	115	214	55
61	James van Riemsdyk	TOR		77.7	67	63	6
62	Mike Hoffman	OTT		76.0	62	60	0
63	Roman Josi	NSH	y	75.9	78	79	15
64	Ondrej Palat	TBL		75.7	71	69	7
65	Jason Spezza	DAL		75.2	63	58	-2
66	Patrice Bergeron	BOS		74.9	60	55	-6
67	Sam Bennett	CGY		74.2	102	106	35
68	Derick Brassard	OTT		73.8	69	62	1
69	Jonathan Drouin	TBL		73.6	94	93	25
70	Oliver Ekman-Larsson	ARI	y	73.4	59	57	-11
71	Nikolaj Ehlers	WPG		72.3	70	72	-1
72	Kyle Turris	OTT		72.1	108	107	36
73	Zach Parise	MIN		71.8	79	75	6
74	Gustav Nyquist	DET		71.5	91	87	17
75	Milan Lucic	EDM		71.3	124	132	49
76	Daniel Sedin	VAN		71.2	56	48	-20
77	Andrew Ladd	NYI		71.1	89	92	12
78	Mitch Marner	TOR		69.1	201	202	123
79	Sam Reinhart	BUF		69.0	77	85	-2
80	Jesse Puljujarvi	EDM		68.5	55	NR	-25
81	Bryan Little	WPG		68.4	80	82	-1
82	Cam Atkinson	CBJ		68.3	114	111	32
83	Rick Nash	NYR		68.3	88	74	5
84	Brandon Saad	CBJ		68.1	116	116	32
85	Robby Fabbri	STL		67.4	68	64	-17
86	Jeff Carter	LAK		67.4	73	70	-13
87	Tomas Tatar	DET		67.3	101	98	14
88	Brad Marchand	BOS		67.1	86	81	-2
89	Nazem Kadri	TOR		67.0	93	90	4
90	T.J. Oshie	WAS		66.9	74	71	-16
91	John Carlson	WAS	y	66.7	120	115	29
92	Vincent Trocheck	FLA		66.4	82	83	-10
93	Max Domi	ARI		66.3	66	65	-27
94	Valeri Nichushkin	DAL		65.8	105	102	11
95	Drew Doughty	LAK	y	65.7	99	96	4
96	Mats Zuccarello	NYR		65.4	85	76	-11
97	Dylan Larkin	DET		65.4	90	89	-7
98	Keith Yandle	FLA	y	65.1	107	99	9
99	Wayne Simmonds	PHI		65.0	111	105	12
100	Kevin Shattenkirk	STL	y	64.9	96	88	-4
101	Henrik Sedin	VAN		64.2	61	54	-40
102	Mika Zibanejad	NYR		64.1	103	104	1
103	Dustin Byfuglien	WPG	y	63.9	97	97	-6
104	Chris Kreider	NYR		63.3	126	118	22
105	Nino Niederreiter	MIN		63.1	87	86	-18
106	Mikkel Boedker	SJS		62.9	65	67	-41
107	Mikael Granlund	MIN		62.2	133	128	26
108	Andre Burakovsky	WAS		60.9	132	129	24
109	Patric Hornqvist	PIT		60.6	76	73	-33
110	Ryan Strome	NYI		60.0	84	84	-26
111	Carl Soderberg	COL		59.5	118	112	7
112	Nick Foligno	CBJ		59.1	113	109	1
113	Marcus Johansson	WAS		59.0	106	101	-7
114	Ryan Spooner	BOS		58.8	109	108	-5
115	Kyle Palmieri	NJD		58.6	119	117	4
116	Adam Henrique	NJD		58.4	152	149	36
117	Patrick Sharp	DAL		58.4	81	80	-36
118	Sean Couturier	PHI		58.2	131	126	13
119	Nick Bjugstad	FLA		58.0	128	123	9
120	Brendan Gallagher	MON		57.6	100	100	-20
121	J.T. Miller	NYR		57.3	127	120	6
122	Alexander Wennberg	CBJ		57.2	95	94	-27
123	David Krejci	BOS		57.1	135	127	12
124	Loui Eriksson	VAN		56.7	75	68	-49
125	Anders Lee	NYI		55.3	117	114	-8
126	James Neal	NSH		55.2	110	103	-16
127	Elias Lindholm	CAR		55.1	136	133	9
128	Mark Giordano	CGY	y	54.9	123	122	-5
129	Tyson Barrie	COL	y	54.5	129	124	0
130	Dougie Hamilton	CGY	y	54.2	165	166	35
131	Tomas Plekanec	MON		53.5	122	121	-9
132	David Backes	BOS		53.3	149	130	17
133	Charlie Coyle	MIN		53.0	139	137	6
134	Rickard Rakell	ANA		52.7	150	148	16
135	Victor Hedman	TBL	y	52.6	138	135	3
136	Kevin Hayes	NYR		52.4	167	160	31
137	Shayne Gostisbehere	PHI	y	51.5	137	134	0
138	Jeff Skinner	CAR		51.4	148	144	10
139	Vladislav Namestnikov	TBL		51.2	162	159	23
140	Jakob Silfverberg	ANA		51.1	169	164	29
141	Paul Stastny	STL		50.9	140	131	-1
142	Bo Horvat	VAN		49.7	170	167	28
143	Nail Yakupov	EDM		49.4	112	119	-31
144	Mathieu Perreault	WPG		48.9	144	142	0
145	Victor Rask	CAR		48.4	154	152	9
146	Aaron Ekblad	FLA	y	48.2	175	174	29
147	Reilly Smith	FLA		47.3	160	156	13
148	Jussi Jokinen	FLA		46.7	141	136	-7
149	Shea Weber	MON	y	46.7	121	110	-28
150	Tomas Hertl	SJS		46.5	125	125	-25
151	Jean-Gabriel Pageau	OTT		46.3	173	173	22
152	Morgan Rielly	TOR	y	46.3	164	162	12
153	Dylan Strome	ARI		46.1	196	198	43
154	Boone Jenner	CBJ		45.7	143	140	-11
155	Mikko Koivu	MIN		45.7	145	138	-10
156	Duncan Keith	CHI	y	45.1	98	91	-58
157	William Nylander	TOR		44.6	197	195	40
158	Evander Kane	BUF		44.0	166	165	8
159	Alex Killorn	TBL		43.9	147	143	-12
160	Tyler Ennis	BUF		43.8	158	157	-2
161	Anthony Duclair	ARI		43.7	142	141	-19
162	Alex Pietrangelo	STL	y	43.7	198	187	36
163	Henrik Zetterberg	DET		43.4	104	95	-59
164	Frans Nielsen	DET		43.1	161	151	-3
165	Seth Jones	CBJ	y	42.9	202	200	37
166	Oliver Bjorkstrand	CBJ		42.6	208	210	42
167	Sebastian Aho	CAR		41.8	247	258	80
168	David Pastrnak	BOS		41.5	212	219	44
169	Craig Smith	NSH		41.3	159	153	-10
170	Justin Faulk	CAR	y	40.9	174	171	4
171	Nick Bonino	PIT		40.9	190	185	19
172	Eric Staal	MIN		39.4	155	147	-17
173	Pavel Zacha	NJD		39.3	268	288	95
174	Jiri Hudler	UFA		39.2	130	78	-44
175	Colin Wilson	NSH		38.6	178	172	3
176	Pierre-Luc Dubois	CBJ		38.4	134	NR	-42
177	David Perron	STL		38.4	187	161	10
178	Jason Pominville	MIN		37.8	156	150	-22
179	Brock Nelson	NYI		37.2	157	154	-22
180	Ryan Kesler	ANA		37.2	179	180	-1
181	Tanner Pearson	LAK		37.1	172	170	-9
182	Alexander Steen	STL		36.9	72	66	-110
183	Artem Anisimov	CHI		36.8	192	186	9
184	Joonas Donskoi	SJS		36.6	184	182	0
185	Mike Cammalleri	NJD		36.3	153	146	-32
186	Sven Bärtschi	VAN		36.0	229	223	43
187	Ryan Suter	MIN	y	35.5	163	158	-24
188	Christian Dvorak	ARI		35.3	203	201	15
189	Jimmy Vesey	BUF		34.6	239	243	50
190	Curtis Lazar	OTT		34.5	185	189	-5
191	Nick Leddy	NYI	y	34.1	183	178	-8
192	Sami Vatanen	ANA	y	33.8	182	176	-10
193	Martin Hanzal	ARI		33.8	171	163	-22
194	Chris Kunitz	PIT		33.2	199	190	5
195	Teddy Purcell	LAK		33.2	168	155	-27
196	Benoit Pouliot	EDM		33.0	189	191	-7
197	Scott Hartnell	CBJ		32.5	177	169	-20
198	Troy Brouwer	CGY		32.1	337	253	139
199	Tyler Bozak	TOR		31.9	176	168	-23
200	Calle Jarnkrok	NSH		31.9	328	318	128
201	TJ Brodie	CGY	y	31.6	200	183	-1
202	Jordan Staal	CAR		31.6	209	199	7
203	David Desharnais	MON		31.4	194	194	-9
204	Brandon Dubinsky	CBJ		30.8	188	181	-16
205	Tyler Motte	CHI		30.1	NR	NR	NEW
206	Frank Vatrano	BOS		30.1	280	291	74
207	Jonathan Marchessault	FLA		29.4	252	275	45
208	Justin Williams	WAS		29.1	191	179	-17
209	Drew Stafford	WPG		29.1	207	203	-2
210	Cody Eakin	DAL		28.8	205	197	-5
211	Patrick Marleau	SJS		28.5	146	139	-65
212	Mike Ribeiro	NSH		28.2	274	259	62
213	Joe Colborne	COL		28.0	283	277	70
214	Thomas Vanek	DET		27.9	151	145	-63
215	Carl Hagelin	PIT		27.8	237	220	22
216	Ryan McDonagh	NYR	y	27.8	235	235	19
217	Chris Tierney	SJS		27.7	180	177	-37
218	Adam Larsson	EDM	y	27.5	213	384	-5
219	Brett Connolly	WAS		26.8	222	250	3
220	Anton Stralman	TBL	y	26.4	220	215	0
221	Rasmus Ristolainen	BUF	y	26.1	193	193	-28
222	Mathew Barzal	NYI		25.9	232	242	10
223	Erik Haula	MIN		25.7	186	175	-37
224	Ryan Ellis	NSH	y	25.5	225	221	1
225	Torey Krug	BOS	y	25.4	266	268	41
226	Adam Lowry	WPG		25.4	226	233	0
227	Kyle Connor	WPG		25.1	214	227	-13
228	Michael Frolik	CGY		24.7	181	184	-47
229	Jake Muzzin	LAK	y	24.3	219	216	-10
230	Mikhail Grigorenko	COL		24.2	210	207	-20
231	Jori Lehtera	STL		24.2	217	208	-14
232	Andreas Athanasiou	DET		23.8	242	244	10
233	Vladimir Sobotka	STL		23.5	408	405	175
234	Anthony Mantha	DET		23.4	228	229	-6
235	Kevin Fiala	NSH		23.3	231	230	-4
236	Josh Bailey	NYI		23.2	255	248	19
237	Sven Andrighetto	MON		23.0	224	217	-13
238	Mikael Backlund	CGY		23.0	261	269	23
239	Colton Parayko	STL	y	22.8	273	280	34
240	Dmitrij Jaskin	STL		22.8	216	204	-24
241	Patrick Maroon	EDM		22.7	227	213	-14
242	Jared McCann	FLA		22.7	234	238	-8
243	Tobias Rieder	ARI		22.5	195	192	-48
244	Mikko Rantanen	COL		22.3	230	239	-14
245	Martin Reway	MON		22.3	NR	NR	NEW
246	Peter Holland	TOR		22.2	206	196	-40
247	Shane Prince	NYI		22.2	215	218	-32
248	Sonny Milano	CBJ		21.7	240	247	-8
249	Cody Ceci	OTT	y	21.4	358	370	109
250	Marc-Edouard Vlasic	SJS	y	21.4	218	212	-32
251	Nick Ritchie	ANA		21.3	236	241	-15
252	Travis Konecny	PHI		21.3	244	256	-8
253	Mattias Ekholm	NSH	y	21.3	267	266	14
254	Clayton Keller	ARI		21.3	245	NR	-9
255	Valtteri Filppula	TBL		21.2	288	205	33
256	Nikolay Goldobin	SJS		21.1	248	252	-8
257	Teemu Pulkkinen	DET		20.8	238	231	-19
258	Jakub Vrana	WAS		20.7	250	254	-8
259	Matt Dumba	MIN	y	20.6	289	299	30
260	Hampus Lindholm	ANA	y	20.6	329	328	69
261	Brent Seabrook	CHI	y	20.6	204	188	-57
262	Kerby Rychel	TOR		20.1	223	225	-39
263	Tomas Jurco	DET		19.8	258	255	-5
264	Jaromir Jagr	FLA		19.6	298	273	34
265	Timo Meier	SJS		19.6	260	276	-5
266	William Karlsson	CBJ		19.6	299	305	33
267	Jacob Trouba	WPG	y	19.4	284	306	17
268	Ty Rattie	STL		19.3	264	264	-4
269	Jason Zucker	MIN		19.2	398	386	129
270	Clarke MacArthur	OTT		19.1	432	434	162
271	Mike Matheson	FLA	y	19.0	412	416	141
272	Cam Fowler	ANA	y	18.9	339	332	67
273	Matthew Tkachuk	CGY		18.9	265	NR	-8
274	Alex Tuch	MIN		18.6	313	292	39
275	Brett Ritchie	DAL		18.5	270	274	-5
276	Matt Nieto	SJS		18.3	368	358	92
277	Nick Cousins	PHI		18.1	NR	NR	NEW
278	Jake Gardiner	TOR	y	18.1	262	257	-16
279	Charles Hudon	MON		18.0	277	270	-2
280	Jake Virtanen	VAN		17.9	279	294	-1
281	Joel Eriksson Ek	MIN		17.9	249	263	-32
282	Connor Brown	TOR		17.8	269	265	-13
283	Justin Abdelkader	DET		17.8	211	209	-72
284	Jimmy Hayes	BOS		17.8	241	234	-43
285	Devin Shore	DAL		17.7	281	287	-4
286	Devante Smith-Pelly	NJD		17.5	406	401	120
287	Kalle Kossila	ANA		17.5	NR	NR	NEW
288	Lawson Crouse	FLA		17.4	330	342	42
289	Francis Perron	OTT		17.3	NR	NR	NEW
290	Alexander Nylander	BUF		17.3	287	NR	-3
291	Pavel Buchnevich	NYR		17.3	272	301	-19
292	Colin White	OTT		17.3	334	347	42
293	Nick Schmaltz	CHI		17.3	335	341	42
294	Anton Rodin	VAN		17.2	NR	NR	NEW
295	Conor Sheary	PIT		17.1	257	260	-38
296	Mattias Janmark	DAL		16.9	253	251	-43
297	Reid Boucher	NJD		16.7	282	283	-15
298	Justin Schultz	PIT	y	16.7	394	309	96
299	Brayden Point	TBL		16.7	292	279	-7
300	Kevin Labanc	SJS		16.7	293	298	-7


Aug	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	July	June	Change
233	Vladimir Sobotka	STL		23.5	408	405	175
330	Mike Green	DET	y	15.1	504	521	174
270	Clarke MacArthur	OTT		19.1	432	434	162
271	Mike Matheson	FLA	y	19.0	412	416	141
198	Troy Brouwer	CGY		32.1	337	253	139
269	Jason Zucker	MIN		19.2	398	386	129
200	Calle Jarnkrok	NSH		31.9	328	318	128
78	Mitch Marner	TOR		69.1	201	202	123
286	Devante Smith-Pelly	NJD		17.5	406	401	120

Aug	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	July	June	Change
549	Kris Versteeg	UFA		0.0	365	272	-184
471	Shane Doan	ARI		5.1	290	237	-181
492	Leo Komarov	TOR		4.1	318	303	-174
384	Marian Gaborik	LAK		11.2	221	211	-163
555	Mikhail Grabovski	NYI		-0.5	392	371	-163
578	Joffrey Lupul	TOR		-3.0	423	404	-155
455	Niklas Kronwall	DET	y	5.7	308	289	-147
446	Anton Slepyshev	EDM		6.0	303	302	-143

Aug	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	July	June	Change
205	Tyler Motte	CHI		30.1	NR	NR	NEW
245	Martin Reway	MON		22.3	NR	NR	NEW
277	Nick Cousins	PHI		18.1	NR	NR	NEW
287	Kalle Kossila	ANA		17.5	NR	NR	NEW
289	Francis Perron	OTT		17.3	NR	NR	NEW
294	Anton Rodin	VAN		17.2	NR	NR	NEW
311	Alan Quine	NYI		15.9	NR	NR	NEW
322	J.T. Compher	COL		15.4	NR	NR	NEW
332	Drake Caggiula	EDM		15.0	NR	NR	NEW
349	Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson	BOS		14.0	NR	NR	NEW
352	Jean-Christophe Beaudin	COL		13.6	NR	NR	NEW
391	Anthony Beauvillier	NYI		10.8	NR	NR	NEW
402	Nick Shore	LAK		9.6	NR	NR	NEW
427	Jordan Schmaltz	STL	y	7.3	NR	NR	NEW
438	Linus Hultstrom	FLA	y	6.4	NR	NR	NEW
452	Laurent Dauphin	ARI		5.9	NR	NR	NEW
518	Jake Walman	STL	y	2.5	NR	NR	NEW
528	Josh Anderson	CBJ		1.8	NR	NR	NEW
540	Michal Kempny	CHI	y	0.7	NR	NR	NEW

Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 13:50Log in to Reply

I would love to know the reason of the drop (110) of Alex Steen… just ahead of Sven Baertschi ??
- Dobber 2016-08-03 at 14:03Log in to Reply
  
  Are you in any points-only keeper leagues?
  - Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 14:26Log in to Reply
    
    yeah (goal = 1pts, pass = 1pts for forwards) but still !
    Obvioulsy a ranking like that is always subject to discussions and im ok with that :-)
    But just another one for the road, Atkinson before Jenner and Saad ?
    Otherwise i really appreciate your work ;-)
    - Dobber 2016-08-03 at 14:36Log in to Reply
      
      I have Atkinson, no way I’d trade him for Jenner the plugger (Foligno Part 2?), or Saad who I don’t believe has Atkinson’s upside.
      
      Steen – So he’s out to start much of this year, and so he’s pretty useless in points-only leagues (42 points? Wouldn’t even make my pro team). So now you own him for future years – and next year he’s 33. How much will he get at 33 in what is now more of a depth role with the Blues? Pass.
      - Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 14:55
        
        come on… you can’t compare Jenner with Foligno.
        Atkinson is a good little player but you already see the best of him… Jenner as way more potential than Atkinson, maybe not upsides but potential.
        
        Steen 52 pts, not 42, in 67 games. he will be ready for the start of the season and should be the linemate of tarasenko for few years
      - Dobber 2016-08-03 at 15:26
        
        You’re right – what Foligno did shocked the hell out of me. Jenner could never do that.
        Then again, I only live near Oshawa and watched Jenner grow up with Generals so what do I know? ;)
        
        If Steen is ready to start the season, then yes he would have some value. But he won’t be. Otherwise you would have said something after you read it in my Fantasy Guide, right?
      - Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 15:35
        
        I bet my annual subscription to your guides that Jenner will hit the 35 goals – 60 pts this year if healthy and Cam will be near of this… only if he can stay on the 1st line with Jenner :-)
        Steen is a warrior… fuck the world cup but he will be there for the 1st game
      - Dobber 2016-08-03 at 15:39
        
        Well, I don’t agree. So you’ll have to like my Rankings except for the Steen, Jenner and Atkinson parts.
        
        Jenner is a third-liner and he gets hurt too much to ever see that bet through (your words “if healthy” will probably void the bet). But he won’t do that if he’s healthy. Cam drags up Jenner’s offense, not the other way around. Why won’t people in my leagues think as you do? I could never get Atkinson by offering up Jenner…I wish
      - Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 15:47
        
        So… free lifetime subscription if Jenner hit the 60 pts ? ;-)
      - Dobber 2016-08-03 at 16:20
        
        Not if I don’t get anything. That’s not a bet, that’s what we call ‘a gift’
      - grapes 2016-08-03 at 17:49
        
        ‘a gift’. Dobber you crack me up.
        Made my day. Thanks
      - Dobber 2016-08-03 at 15:31
        
        If you think we’ve seen the best of Atkinson, then you’ll be in for a surprise shortly. Do yourself a favor and have a little faith. Steady SOG and S% increase, consistent pts/gp increase, about to hit his prime. He’s right on target, watch
      - Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 15:42
        
        Not difficult, he play with way better player in Columbus then few years ago :-)
SB M 2016-08-03 at 14:46Log in to Reply

52 seems awfully high for Teravainen, he hasn’t really done much with the chances he has had. He’s certainly a player I would target in keeper leagues but not over some of the names below him.
- Dobber 2016-08-03 at 15:25Log in to Reply
  
  You can get a guy after he breaks out for 55+ points, or you can get the guy before then. Your call, I’m just here to help ;)
  - SB M 2016-08-04 at 09:12Log in to Reply
    
    Ha ha, fair enough. I already hold Teuvo in my league so I hope you’re right.
Daniel Sandler 2016-08-03 at 15:50Log in to Reply

What’s with the 11 rank jump from Wheeler? Did the rankings not change a lot in July after the Draft? Not sure of this affected other guys a lot too, he’s just the first one I noticed to be surprisingly high with a big positive change in rank
- Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 15:52Log in to Reply
  
  Wheeler should be at this spot for a while… agreed on this one :-)
- Dobber 2016-08-03 at 16:20Log in to Reply
  
  I explained the big changes in the intro
  - Daniel Sandler 2016-08-03 at 17:33Log in to Reply
    
    Maybe I’m just not reading it right when I read it but I still don’t get why Wheeler had such a big bump. Laine was already in the July rankings so it’s not like your projections didn’t involve him and it doesn’t seem like you really updated it unless you shifted all the A’s for Laine’s goals from someone else. Meanwhile I don’t know what happened that could have pushed Giroux, Malkin and Stamkos down recently while also moving Wheeler so far up that couldn’t have been considered in July
    - Dobber 2016-08-03 at 19:49Log in to Reply
      
      Well, I said in the intro that I imported my projections for this season. That this is my yearly ‘audit’. So these are the projections most accurate for the year. Then each of the next 11 months, my ‘tweaks’ start getting used again. And by the 11th month, all that tweaking made a few of the players a little inaccurate. And then – bam, I have my August ‘audit’ and the players reset properly.
      
      So in July, when I ‘ballparked’ the 16-17 projection for Wheeler, I was obviously 7 or 8 points lower than what the projection actually ended up at.
      And in July my ‘ballpark’ had overshot Malkin, Giroux and Stamkos when in fact thorough analysis and the use of my formula gave me a 16-17 number that was somewhat lower.
Brian 2016-08-03 at 23:36Log in to Reply

I am posting this as someone who believes McDavid should’ve won the Calder over Panarin. I do not think that after 45 games, McDavid deserves to be crowned best fantasy player in hockey. Just my opinion, but it seems like he is being given the shiny new toy treatment.
- Dobber 2016-08-03 at 23:39Log in to Reply
  
  Solid point, but answer me this – if you owned McDavid, would you trade him for Crosby? POINTS ONLY.
  I wouldn’t (and as a Crosby owner, I would trade him for McDavid). So I guess that pretty much puts him on top (I wouldn’t trade Crosby for Kane in a million years, just to cut off any rebuttal involving Kane…)
  - Brian 2016-08-04 at 02:37Log in to Reply
    
    That question would depend on whether I was rebuilding or contending. If I was rebuilding then Crosby’s age comes into play, hence I would go with McDavid. If I was contending, I would stick with Crosby, Kane or Ovechkin over McDavid. I am not saying McDavid won’t get there…I am a big fan…just not after 45 games.
    - Dobber 2016-08-04 at 09:12Log in to Reply
      
      So there’s your answer.
      1. I wouldn’t trade McDavid for Crosby. But I would trade Crosby for McDavid.
      2. The guy in my league who owns McDavid said “no” when I offered him Crosby.
      3. The guy in my other league who owns McDavid said “no” when I offered him Malkin and Kucherov.
      4. You would trade McDavid for Crosby – some of the time.
      
      Conclusion – most people would trade McDavid in most situations, but not in all. Therefore, McDavid should be ranked first…but only by a slim margin. Like 179.8 to 170.6 ;)
    - Dobber 2016-08-04 at 09:14Log in to Reply
      
      If the league counts other categories (which is not about these rankings, this is points-only), then Ovechkin should be king.
      Kane I’m still not sold on last year. At all. I wouldn’t even trade my Tavares for him (even though the formula has Kane ranked above Tavares).
Jones 2016-08-05 at 06:39Log in to Reply

I know Klefbom have had his fair share of injuries, but shouldn’t the #1 D on the Oilers, the guy who will most likely play with McDavid, Lucic, and Eberle on the PP, be on this list? Over guys such as Justin Schulz?
- Dobber 2016-08-05 at 07:26Log in to Reply
  
  Larsson is on the list already, way ahead of Schultz
  - Jones 2016-08-05 at 07:31Log in to Reply
    
    He sure is, but what about Klefbom? I think we can safely assume that without injuries, he will be their number 1 choice.
    - Dobber 2016-08-05 at 08:53Log in to Reply
      
      A LH shot D I don’t believe will part of what they picture for their power play. At least their top one. That’s why they paid out the butt for Larsson. Klef will be a middle-of-the road two-way D who misses 10-15 games per year with injuries.
Anthony Young 2016-08-09 at 20:56Log in to Reply

Huberdeau over Barkov? Is it because it is harder to get a good scoring LW than a C? Also, you think that Johasen will outscore Scheifele? I can see it happening this year,but if we consider long-term upside (as I think we should for keeper leagues) I was thinking that Scheifele will maybe be better surounded than Johansen (Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers vs Forsberg, Neal, Wilson or Jarnkrok). What do you think?
- Dobber 2016-08-09 at 21:04Log in to Reply
  
  Hi Anthony, positions don’t factor into this. Huberdeau is above Barkov because Barkov gets injured a lot. At this point I rate him a high likelihood of missing over a dozen games this year.
  Scheifele over Johansen – that’s a tough one, I would still prefer Johansen at this point
  - Anthony Young 2016-08-09 at 21:14Log in to Reply
    
    That’s a good point, I knew Barkov missed nearly 20 games this year, but I forgot he also got injured (especially in his first season).
    Also, if postions do not factor, you rank Huberdeau over Scheifele? Is it because of injuries as well? He missed just 11 games this year and none the previous season.
    
    Thanks, always great reading you
Chris Liggio 2016-08-13 at 08:48Log in to Reply

Josi has to be higher; him and Eberle need to swap he is too valuable only 4 defenders posted sixty plus points last season and he is one that should vault him higher than 63.
Norm Carriere 2016-08-16 at 16:49Log in to Reply

Marian Hossa isnt ranked in the top 300?
- Dobber 2016-08-16 at 17:46Log in to Reply
  
  Nope! I had kind of mixed feelings when I saw that. I drafted him as an 18 year old!
  He’s 315. Out of curiosity, how many points do you see him getting this year? (and it’s only going to get worse from there)
  - Norm Carriere 2016-08-17 at 11:00Log in to Reply
    
    I know his production has dropped, but he is still a great…ish player.
    Lining up with Toews of course helps, I think his production is really going to depend on his health and who the else is on the 2nd line. If he can play 75-82 games and gets good chemistry I think he will be a great bounce back player. I would like to see him line up with Motte, or Vesey if they can sign him. Time will tell.
    - Dobber 2016-08-17 at 11:14Log in to Reply
      
      He’s 37 and will never get 50 points again. He’s a dropsy in all three of my keeper leagues (one league he may be worthy as a waiver pickup at a few points during the season, but not draftable) and playing with a promising rookie would make the outlook worse, not better. I like Vesey and Motte, but Hossa should be helping them not the other way around.
      - Norm Carriere 2016-08-17 at 11:27
        
        Valid, that’s why it’s your website. I guess I’m trying to justify for drafting him in one keeper league. I’ll give him a try out and drop if needed. Cheers
      - Dobber 2016-08-17 at 11:39
        
        What are your other options? There has to be a better player you can roll the dice on, unless this is the 26th round and your league has more than 12 teams
      - Norm Carriere 2016-08-17 at 11:46
        
        Well there were other options (draft is 2 weeks past) but its a 12 team keeper league carry over 24 players (12 fwd, 5 D, 2 G) plus there is a separate prospect roster. League is 15+ years going, So there is a lot of players gone already. The draft is usually 1st and 2nd round prospects and fillers. I have a pretty solid team, and decent prospect roster already. I rolled the dice on him thinking he would be a decent filler on wing, cap hit is high ( we are a cap league) but I figure I can always drop. I drafted him higher than I should have, but the real deal was getting Mathews (I had the 1st overall). So in short, I would have got a late NHL 1st rounder or 2nd round draft player.
Javin C 2016-08-26 at 16:27Log in to Reply

How in the world do you have Backstrom over Tarasenko on a keeper league?? Are you high or just out of your mind. A 29 year old that showed injury problems last year vs. the next Ovechkin who is 24
- Dobber 2016-08-27 at 19:32Log in to Reply
  
  ^ What does everybody else think of this comment? Curious if there is a single person on Planet Earth who feels the same way?
  
  Javin, you speak of 29 as if he’s ready for the old-age home instead of at the heart of his prime, and you speak of the 7 games he missed last year as this serious problem that he has – when he hasn’t missed a game in any of the three prior years. The guy had an Iron Man streak going. And truth be told, Tarasenko is lower in small part because of is mild injury risk (missed 2, 5, and 18 games over last three years versus Backstrom missing 7, 0, and 0)
  
  Tarasenko’s best season is 74 points, Backstrom (who is only 28) beat that four times (and counting).
  - Javin C 2016-08-27 at 21:08Log in to Reply
    
    You have Radulov and Brassard over guys like OEL and Sam Bennett. How is this a keeper league ranking?
    
    ^ is to point out some more idiotic offenses you made in this list. In terms of the subject at hand, Tarasenko has 1 less point in the last 2 years than Backstrom and he’s 4 years younger. You need to get off the drugs man. Backstrom has played with Ovi his whole career (I love Backstrom btw, he is just way too high on this list) versus Tarasenko has played with nobody near his talent level, albeit guys like Fabbri look pretty good. Don’t even get me started on the fact you have a 31 year old Ryan Getzlaf in the top 20.
    - Dobber 2016-08-27 at 21:14Log in to Reply
      
      Oh wow…whoa. You’d get absolutely massacred in my league.
      I hope the reason for your being so far off base is because you didn’t read the note at the top describing what keeper league this list is for. Yikes. I can’t even rebut this – it would be like trying to explain to someone that the sky isn’t purple.
mrod 2016-08-27 at 21:34Log in to Reply

In my current keeper league, you have to start 6 f, 3 d, 1 goalie. I can keep 8 guys. Right now I am keeping 7 forwards and 1 goalie. But I have a chance to pickup doughty but would have to drop either Nugent-Hopkins, Turris, or Tyler Johnson…. What should I do!?
- Dobber 2016-08-27 at 22:35Log in to Reply
  
  I’d drop RNH and pick up Doughty
  - mrod 2016-08-27 at 22:42Log in to Reply
    
    Thank you!!
mrod 2016-08-30 at 15:12Log in to Reply

One more quick question. Just joined a new keeper league. I was able to draft pacioretty. I have a potential opportunity to trade him for Scheifele 1 for 1. Should I do this? And if I can do this, if possible should I trade Scheifele 1 for 1 for Ryan Johansen? Im torn… Thanks!
- Dobber 2016-08-30 at 17:33Log in to Reply
  
  I would trade Pacioretty for Scheifele and I would be tempted to flip him for RyJo – but I’ll leave the latter decision up to you

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