Top 300 Keeper League Skaters – September 2016

Dobber

2016-09-01

The Top 300 skaters to own in fantasy hockey keeper leagues – September edition. Tweaking tweaking, always tweaking…

This month, as with every year, is the month with the fewest changes. Very few free agents signed or trades made since the August ranking. The few players who did join a new team have been adjusted, and there were several small tweaks based on feedback (i.e. I read your comments and take a second look at the player you mention). But otherwise, not a lot has changed.

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As always, the rankings consider points this year, their 3YP (likelihood points when they peak), their upside, proneness to injury, how their depth chart looks now and in the future (who is ahead of them/who they play with/coaching style). These are for points-only, and of course – positions are not factored (i.e. a defenseman's offensive upside isn't as high as a forward's).

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Note: +/- 5.0 rating points – consider them equal. Tomato/Tomatto – their respective owners probably rate the one they own higher.

Sep	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	Aug	July	Change
1	Connor McDavid	EDM		179.8	1	3	0
2	Sidney Crosby	PIT		170.6	2	1	0
3	Patrick Kane	CHI		163.5	3	2	0
4	Jamie Benn	DAL		160.5	4	4	0
5	Alex Ovechkin	WAS		157.5	5	6	0
6	John Tavares	NYI		149.1	6	7	0
7	Tyler Seguin	DAL		141.7	7	5	0
8	Nicklas Backstrom	WAS		139.7	8	8	0
9	Johnny Gaudreau	CGY		132.8	9	12	0
10	Erik Karlsson	OTT	y	132.4	10	11	0
11	Jack Eichel	BUF		131.6	11	18	0
12	Vladimir Tarasenko	STL		130.5	12	14	0
13	Evgeny Kuznetsov	WAS		124.0	13	9	0
14	Blake Wheeler	WPG		122.6	14	25	0
15	Claude Giroux	PHI		118.8	15	13	0
16	Nikita Kucherov	TBL		117.2	16	22	0
17	Evgeni Malkin	PIT		115.9	17	10	0
18	Ryan Getzlaf	ANA		115.0	18	19	0
19	Steven Stamkos	TBL		113.3	19	16	0
20	Joe Pavelski	SJS		112.6	20	15	0
21	Anze Kopitar	LAK		112.2	21	21	0
22	Artemi Panarin	CHI		107.6	22	36	0
23	Ryan Johansen	NSH		106.7	23	33	0
24	Nathan MacKinnon	COL		106.5	24	24	0
25	Filip Forsberg	NSH		105.2	26	37	1
26	Taylor Hall	NJD		105.0	27	17	1
27	Phil Kessel	PIT		104.4	25	23	-2
28	Sean Monahan	CGY		104.2	28	44	0
29	Jakub Voracek	PHI		104.1	29	20	0
30	Corey Perry	ANA		103.6	30	26	0
31	Brent Burns	SJS	y	103.4	31	31	0
32	Jonathan Huberdeau	FLA		101.8	32	42	0
33	Jordan Eberle	EDM		100.7	33	35	0
34	Mark Stone	OTT		97.1	34	30	0
35	Joe Thornton	SJS		96.8	35	32	0
36	Tyler Toffoli	LAK		95.4	36	43	0
37	Mark Scheifele	WPG		94.5	37	53	0
38	Tyler Johnson	TBL		93.7	38	34	0
39	Alex Galchenyuk	MON		93.0	39	50	0
40	Matt Duchene	COL		92.6	40	27	0
41	Aleksander Barkov	FLA		91.7	41	40	0
42	Patrik Laine	WPG		91.5	42	46	0
43	Auston Matthews	TOR		91.4	43	41	0
44	Derek Stepan	NYR		89.9	44	58	0
45	Gabriel Landeskog	COL		89.6	45	54	0
46	Ryan O'Reilly	BUF		89.5	46	57	0
47	P.K. Subban	NSH	y	89.2	47	47	0
48	Jonathan Toews	CHI		89.2	48	38	0
49	John Klingberg	DAL	y	88.3	49	29	0
50	Max Pacioretty	MON		88.0	50	51	0
51	Leon Draisaitl	EDM		86.9	51	28	0
52	Teuvo Teravainen	CAR		85.3	52	92	0
53	Bobby Ryan	OTT		84.4	53	49	0
54	Logan Couture	SJS		83.8	54	39	0
55	Kyle Okposo	BUF		82.9	55	52	0
56	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	EDM		82.3	56	45	0
57	Kris Letang	PIT	y	81.2	57	64	0
58	Jaden Schwartz	STL		81.2	58	83	0
59	Brayden Schenn	PHI		80.7	59	48	0
60	Roman Josi	NSH	y	78.9	63	78	3
61	Alexander Radulov	MON		78.8	60	115	-1
62	James van Riemsdyk	TOR		77.7	61	67	-1
63	Mike Hoffman	OTT		76.0	62	62	-1
64	Ondrej Palat	TBL		75.7	64	71	0
65	Jason Spezza	DAL		75.2	65	63	0
66	Patrice Bergeron	BOS		74.9	66	60	0
67	Sam Bennett	CGY		74.2	67	102	0
68	Derick Brassard	OTT		73.8	68	69	0
69	Jonathan Drouin	TBL		73.6	69	94	0
70	Oliver Ekman-Larsson	ARI	y	73.4	70	59	0
71	Nikolaj Ehlers	WPG		72.3	71	70	0
72	Kyle Turris	OTT		72.1	72	108	0
73	Zach Parise	MIN		71.8	73	79	0
74	Gustav Nyquist	DET		71.5	74	91	0
75	Milan Lucic	EDM		71.3	75	124	0
76	Daniel Sedin	VAN		71.2	76	56	0
77	Andrew Ladd	NYI		71.1	77	89	0
78	Mitch Marner	TOR		69.1	78	201	0
79	Sam Reinhart	BUF		69.0	79	77	0
80	Jesse Puljujarvi	EDM		68.5	80	55	0
81	Bryan Little	WPG		68.4	81	80	0
82	Cam Atkinson	CBJ		68.3	82	114	0
83	Rick Nash	NYR		68.3	83	88	0
84	Brandon Saad	CBJ		68.1	84	116	0
85	Robby Fabbri	STL		67.4	85	68	0
86	Jeff Carter	LAK		67.4	86	73	0
87	Tomas Tatar	DET		67.3	87	101	0
88	Brad Marchand	BOS		67.1	88	86	0
89	Nazem Kadri	TOR		67.0	89	93	0
90	T.J. Oshie	WAS		66.9	90	74	0
91	John Carlson	WAS	y	66.7	91	120	0
92	Vincent Trocheck	FLA		66.4	92	82	0
93	Max Domi	ARI		66.3	93	66	0
94	Valeri Nichushkin	DAL		65.8	94	105	0
95	Drew Doughty	LAK	y	65.7	95	99	0
96	Mats Zuccarello	NYR		65.4	96	85	0
97	Dylan Larkin	DET		65.4	97	90	0
98	Keith Yandle	FLA	y	65.1	98	107	0
99	Wayne Simmonds	PHI		65.0	99	111	0
100	Kevin Shattenkirk	STL	y	64.9	100	96	0
101	Henrik Sedin	VAN		64.2	101	61	0
102	Mika Zibanejad	NYR		64.1	102	103	0
103	Dustin Byfuglien	WPG	y	63.9	103	97	0
104	Chris Kreider	NYR		63.3	104	126	0
105	Nino Niederreiter	MIN		63.1	105	87	0
106	Mikkel Boedker	SJS		62.9	106	65	0
107	Mikael Granlund	MIN		62.2	107	133	0
108	Andre Burakovsky	WAS		60.9	108	132	0
109	Patric Hornqvist	PIT		60.6	109	76	0
110	Ryan Strome	NYI		60.0	110	84	0
111	Carl Soderberg	COL		59.5	111	118	0
112	Nick Foligno	CBJ		59.1	112	113	0
113	Marcus Johansson	WAS		59.0	113	106	0
114	Ryan Spooner	BOS		58.8	114	109	0
115	Kyle Palmieri	NJD		58.6	115	119	0
116	Adam Henrique	NJD		58.4	116	152	0
117	Patrick Sharp	DAL		58.4	117	81	0
118	Sean Couturier	PHI		58.2	118	131	0
119	Nick Bjugstad	FLA		58.0	119	128	0
120	Brendan Gallagher	MON		57.6	120	100	0
121	J.T. Miller	NYR		57.3	121	127	0
122	Alexander Wennberg	CBJ		57.2	122	95	0
123	David Krejci	BOS		57.1	123	135	0
124	Loui Eriksson	VAN		56.7	124	75	0
125	Anders Lee	NYI		55.3	125	117	0
126	James Neal	NSH		55.2	126	110	0
127	Elias Lindholm	CAR		55.1	127	136	0
128	Mark Giordano	CGY	y	54.9	128	123	0
129	Tyson Barrie	COL	y	54.5	129	129	0
130	Dougie Hamilton	CGY	y	54.2	130	165	0
131	Tomas Plekanec	MON		53.5	131	122	0
132	David Backes	BOS		53.3	132	149	0
133	Charlie Coyle	MIN		53.0	133	139	0
134	Rickard Rakell	ANA		52.7	134	150	0
135	Victor Hedman	TBL	y	52.6	135	138	0
136	Kevin Hayes	NYR		52.4	136	167	0
137	Shayne Gostisbehere	PHI	y	51.5	137	137	0
138	Jeff Skinner	CAR		51.4	138	148	0
139	Jiri Hudler	DAL		51.3	174	130	35
140	Vladislav Namestnikov	TBL		51.2	139	162	-1
141	Jakob Silfverberg	ANA		51.1	140	169	-1
142	Paul Stastny	STL		50.9	141	140	-1
143	Bo Horvat	VAN		49.7	142	170	-1
144	Nail Yakupov	EDM		49.4	143	112	-1
145	Mathieu Perreault	WPG		48.9	144	144	-1
146	Victor Rask	CAR		48.4	145	154	-1
147	Aaron Ekblad	FLA	y	48.2	146	175	-1
148	Reilly Smith	FLA		47.3	147	160	-1
149	Jussi Jokinen	FLA		46.7	148	141	-1
150	Shea Weber	MON	y	46.7	149	121	-1
151	Tomas Hertl	SJS		46.5	150	125	-1
152	Jean-Gabriel Pageau	OTT		46.3	151	173	-1
153	Morgan Rielly	TOR	y	46.3	152	164	-1
154	Dylan Strome	ARI		46.1	153	196	-1
155	Boone Jenner	CBJ		45.7	154	143	-1
156	Mikko Koivu	MIN		45.7	155	145	-1
157	Duncan Keith	CHI	y	44.8	156	98	-1
158	William Nylander	TOR		44.6	157	197	-1
159	Evander Kane	BUF		44.0	158	166	-1
160	Alex Killorn	TBL		43.9	159	147	-1
161	Tyler Ennis	BUF		43.8	160	158	-1
162	Anthony Duclair	ARI		43.7	161	142	-1
163	Alex Pietrangelo	STL	y	43.7	162	198	-1
164	Henrik Zetterberg	DET		43.4	163	104	-1
165	Frans Nielsen	DET		43.1	164	161	-1
166	Seth Jones	CBJ	y	42.9	165	202	-1
167	Oliver Bjorkstrand	CBJ		42.6	166	208	-1
168	Sebastian Aho	CAR		41.8	167	247	-1
169	David Pastrnak	BOS		41.5	168	212	-1
170	Craig Smith	NSH		41.3	169	159	-1
171	Justin Faulk	CAR	y	40.9	170	174	-1
172	Nick Bonino	PIT		40.9	171	190	-1
173	Eric Staal	MIN		39.4	172	155	-1
174	Pavel Zacha	NJD		39.3	173	268	-1
175	Colin Wilson	NSH		38.6	175	178	0
176	Pierre-Luc Dubois	CBJ		38.4	176	134	0
177	David Perron	STL		38.4	177	187	0
178	Jason Pominville	MIN		37.8	178	156	0
179	Brock Nelson	NYI		37.2	179	157	0
180	Ryan Kesler	ANA		37.2	180	179	0
181	Tanner Pearson	LAK		37.1	181	172	0
182	Alexander Steen	STL		36.9	182	72	0
183	Artem Anisimov	CHI		36.8	183	192	0
184	Joonas Donskoi	SJS		36.6	184	184	0
185	Mike Cammalleri	NJD		36.3	185	153	0
186	Sven Bärtschi	VAN		36.0	186	229	0
187	Ryan Suter	MIN	y	35.5	187	163	0
188	Christian Dvorak	ARI		35.3	188	203	0
189	Jimmy Vesey	NYR		34.6	189	239	0
190	Curtis Lazar	OTT		34.5	190	185	0
191	Nick Leddy	NYI	y	34.1	191	183	0
192	Sami Vatanen	ANA	y	33.8	192	182	0
193	Martin Hanzal	ARI		33.8	193	171	0
194	Chris Kunitz	PIT		33.2	194	199	0
195	Teddy Purcell	LAK		33.2	195	168	0
196	Benoit Pouliot	EDM		33.0	196	189	0
197	Scott Hartnell	CBJ		32.5	197	177	0
198	Troy Brouwer	CGY		32.1	198	337	0
199	Tyler Bozak	TOR		31.9	199	176	0
200	Calle Jarnkrok	NSH		31.9	200	328	0
201	TJ Brodie	CGY	y	31.6	201	200	0
202	Jordan Staal	CAR		31.6	202	209	0
203	David Desharnais	MON		31.4	203	194	0
204	Brandon Dubinsky	CBJ		30.8	204	188	0
205	Tyler Motte	CHI		30.1	205	NR	0
206	Frank Vatrano	BOS		30.1	206	280	0
207	Jonathan Marchessault	FLA		29.4	207	252	0
208	Justin Williams	WAS		29.1	208	191	0
209	Drew Stafford	WPG		29.1	209	207	0
210	Cody Eakin	DAL		28.8	210	205	0
211	Patrick Marleau	SJS		28.5	211	146	0
212	Mike Ribeiro	NSH		28.2	212	274	0
213	Joe Colborne	COL		28.0	213	283	0
214	Thomas Vanek	DET		27.9	214	151	0
215	Carl Hagelin	PIT		27.8	215	237	0
216	Ryan McDonagh	NYR	y	27.8	216	235	0
217	Chris Tierney	SJS		27.7	217	180	0
218	Adam Larsson	EDM	y	27.5	218	213	0
219	Brett Connolly	WAS		26.8	219	222	0
220	Anton Stralman	TBL	y	26.4	220	220	0
221	Rasmus Ristolainen	BUF	y	26.1	221	193	0
222	Mathew Barzal	NYI		25.9	222	232	0
223	Erik Haula	MIN		25.7	223	186	0
224	Ryan Ellis	NSH	y	25.5	224	225	0
225	Torey Krug	BOS	y	25.4	225	266	0
226	Adam Lowry	WPG		25.4	226	226	0
227	Kyle Connor	WPG		25.1	227	214	0
228	Michael Frolik	CGY		24.7	228	181	0
229	Jake Muzzin	LAK	y	24.3	229	219	0
230	Mikhail Grigorenko	COL		24.2	230	210	0
231	Jori Lehtera	STL		24.2	231	217	0
232	Andreas Athanasiou	DET		23.8	232	242	0
233	Vladimir Sobotka	STL		23.5	233	408	0
234	Anthony Mantha	DET		23.4	234	228	0
235	Kevin Fiala	NSH		23.3	235	231	0
236	Josh Bailey	NYI		23.2	236	255	0
237	Sven Andrighetto	MON		23.0	237	224	0
238	Mikael Backlund	CGY		23.0	238	261	0
239	Colton Parayko	STL	y	22.8	239	273	0
240	Dmitrij Jaskin	STL		22.8	240	216	0
241	Patrick Maroon	EDM		22.7	241	227	0
242	Jared McCann	FLA		22.7	242	234	0
243	Tobias Rieder	ARI		22.5	243	195	0
244	Mikko Rantanen	COL		22.3	244	230	0
245	Martin Reway	MON		22.3	245	NR	0
246	Peter Holland	TOR		22.2	246	206	0
247	Shane Prince	NYI		22.2	247	215	0
248	Sonny Milano	CBJ		21.7	248	240	0
249	Cody Ceci	OTT	y	21.4	249	358	0
250	Marc-Edouard Vlasic	SJS	y	21.4	250	218	0
251	Radim Vrbata	ARI		21.3	437	345	186
252	Nick Ritchie	ANA		21.3	251	236	-1
253	Travis Konecny	PHI		21.3	252	244	-1
254	Mattias Ekholm	NSH	y	21.3	253	267	-1
255	Valtteri Filppula	TBL		21.2	255	288	0
256	Nikolay Goldobin	SJS		21.1	256	248	0
257	Clayton Keller	ARI		21.0	254	245	-3
258	Teemu Pulkkinen	DET		20.8	257	238	-1
259	Jakub Vrana	WAS		20.7	258	250	-1
260	Matt Dumba	MIN	y	20.6	259	289	-1
261	Hampus Lindholm	ANA	y	20.6	260	329	-1
262	Brent Seabrook	CHI	y	20.6	261	204	-1
263	Kerby Rychel	TOR		20.1	262	223	-1
264	Tomas Jurco	DET		19.8	263	258	-1
265	Jaromir Jagr	FLA		19.6	264	298	-1
266	Timo Meier	SJS		19.6	265	260	-1
267	William Karlsson	CBJ		19.6	266	299	-1
268	Jacob Trouba	WPG	y	19.4	267	284	-1
269	Ty Rattie	STL		19.3	268	264	-1
270	Jason Zucker	MIN		19.2	269	398	-1
271	Clarke MacArthur	OTT		19.1	270	432	-1
272	Mike Matheson	FLA	y	19.0	271	412	-1
273	Cam Fowler	ANA	y	18.9	272	339	-1
274	Matthew Tkachuk	CGY		18.9	273	265	-1
275	Alex Tuch	MIN		18.6	274	313	-1
276	Brett Ritchie	DAL		18.5	275	270	-1
277	Matt Nieto	SJS		18.3	276	368	-1
278	Nick Cousins	PHI		18.1	277	NR	-1
279	Jake Gardiner	TOR	y	18.1	278	262	-1
280	Charles Hudon	MON		18.0	279	277	-1
281	Jake Virtanen	VAN		17.9	280	279	-1
282	Joel Eriksson Ek	MIN		17.9	281	249	-1
283	Connor Brown	TOR		17.8	282	269	-1
284	Justin Abdelkader	DET		17.8	283	211	-1
285	Jimmy Hayes	BOS		17.8	284	241	-1
286	Devin Shore	DAL		17.7	285	281	-1
287	Devante Smith-Pelly	NJD		17.5	286	406	-1
288	Kalle Kossila	ANA		17.5	287	NR	-1
289	Lawson Crouse	ARI		17.4	288	330	-1
290	Francis Perron	OTT		17.3	289	NR	-1
291	Alexander Nylander	BUF		17.3	290	287	-1
292	Pavel Buchnevich	NYR		17.3	291	272	-1
293	Colin White	OTT		17.3	292	334	-1
294	Nick Schmaltz	CHI		17.3	293	335	-1
295	Conor Sheary	PIT		17.1	295	257	0
296	Marian Hossa	CHI		17.1	315	278	19
297	Alan Quine	NYI		16.9	311	NR	14
298	Mattias Janmark	DAL		16.9	296	253	-2
299	Reid Boucher	NJD		16.7	297	282	-2
300	Justin Schultz	PIT	y	16.7	298	394	-2


Sep	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	Aug	July	Change
251	Radim Vrbata	ARI		21.3	437	345	186
139	Jiri Hudler	DAL		51.3	174	130	35
340	Brandon Pirri	NYR		14.6	374	291	34
385	Zach Werenski	CBJ	y	11.3	416	430	31
522	Mark Streit	PHI	y	2.0	544	582	22
296	Marian Hossa	CHI		17.1	315	278	19
297	Alan Quine	NYI		16.9	311	NR	14



Sep	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	Aug	July	Change
405	Ilya Kovalchuk	UFA		9.3	387	311	-18
308	Anton Rodin	VAN		16.2	294	NR	-14
309	Brayden Point	TBL		16.1	299	292	-10
318	Brendan Leipsic	TOR		15.7	309	302	-9
257	Clayton Keller	ARI		21.0	254	245	-3
310	Michael Dal Colle	NYI		16.1	307	276	-3
311	Hudson Fasching	BUF		16.1	308	301	-3
27	Phil Kessel	PIT		104.4	25	23	-2

Marc-Olivier Fortier 2016-09-01 at 07:53Log in to Reply

You still have Vesey listed as a Sabre. Also, find it hard to believe his choosing the NYR doesn’t diminish (at least slightly) his value.
- Dobber 2016-09-01 at 08:15Log in to Reply
  
  Sorry…I missed one (I hope only one?). You are correct, his value should have dipped a little. Next month, I guess. I had this nagging feeling that I was missing one key adjustment and I went over it and went over it and nothing popped out
larrylintz 2016-09-01 at 08:33Log in to Reply

Any chance you could toss out a guess as to where Karlsson would rank, especially vis a vis McDavid, in a one-year league taking into account position scarcity? (My league starts 5 fw, 2 d-men). I also have a thread/poll in the one-yr league forum trying to figure out which is most valuable in our format.
- mage-users 2016-09-01 at 09:14Log in to Reply
  
  How scarce? I play in a 16 players points only with 7 forwards and 3 d-men. My top 5 is Crosby-McDavid-Kane-Benn and #5 Karlsson. I would be willing to swing for the fence and take McDavid first in points only league. So you can flip-flop Crosby and McDavid here.
larrylintz 2016-09-01 at 09:43Log in to Reply

Usually 16-18 teams in our league so 32 to 36 d-men starting vis 5x 16/18 forwards.
Crosby had only 3 more points than EK last year. I’m not saying it’s repeatable but EK was actually ahead of Sid for most of the year. If Crosby (or as better egs Pavelski, Gaudreau, Tarasenko, etc.) suddenly qualified for D wouldn’t poolies be tripping over themselves to grab them, arguably #1?
I don’t know, this is why I’m asking. Maybe someone better at math could crunch some numbers in a points-only one-year league on the relative worth of having a d-man who is a fantastic bet to get 75 or more, vs an elite point-a-game or slightly more forward.
The reason i single out McDavid is i think he’s the most likely candidate to break 100 this year. I don’t think Kane can repeat, and while i won’t rule out Sid, owning/watching him in the playoffs made me think those days are over. If i thought McD was going to be ppg and no more i’d take EK in a heartbeat due to position scarcity.
Shane 2016-09-01 at 11:07Log in to Reply

I am curious why Sam Bennett is so high on this list. He is stuck behind Monahan, plays 2nd line and 2nd pp unit? I see him comparable to Nylander or Hertl who are way lower on the list.
- Dobber 2016-09-02 at 09:41Log in to Reply
  
  Yes, comparable to those two. Nice comparables there.
  
  So – he’s more proven than Nylander and he’s less injury prone than Hertl. Does that count for something?
Clement G 2016-09-01 at 12:18Log in to Reply

I am really wondering why Aaron Ekblad is ranked so low ? The guy is the angular stone of THE most ascending team in the East. He plays like a veteran and his shot pct is amazing for the last 2 seasons. Can someone explain ? I would be happy to discuss or receive comments. I have him in a keeper and wonder if I should let him go

14 FW points only + 7 Defs Goals 2pts pass 1 pt. + 3 Goalies 2points W 3 pts Shootout.

Aaron Ekblad
John Carlson
John Klingberg
Roman Josi
Andre Burakovsky
Jakub Voracek
Joe Thornton
Jonathan Drouin
Jordan Eberle
Patrick Sharp
Sidney Crosby
Tyler Toffoli
Wayne Simmonds
Antti Niemi
Jonathan Quick

Need to keep 10 in this already reduced list.

Have a good day all !
- Dobber 2016-09-01 at 18:29Log in to Reply
  
  It’s points-only and for the foreseeable future I don’t really see him getting up over 47 or 48 points. But he can certainly change my mind in an awful hurry with a hot start. But he’s a keeper. You let go Sharp, Burakovsky and Niemi for sure. Last drops should probably be Simmonds and then your choice of Eberle or Drouin (faith in Drouin? Or not?)
TONY FILIPPELLI 2016-09-01 at 19:01Log in to Reply

Definitely a keeper this list is someone’s opinion that does not much about hockey, they have Teddy Purcell ahead of TJ Brodie a stud dman.
- Dobber 2016-09-01 at 19:17Log in to Reply
  
  Definitely a comment that is someone’s opinion who does not know much about reading the introduction.
  
  I first posted this monthly keeper list in November of 2001. Nobody has done it as long as i have. Welcome to the site, Tony
THeunmistakable 2016-09-01 at 21:33Log in to Reply

Torn. In a keeper league with three keepers and a goal heavy league. I got Forseberg, Gaudreau, and Perry. I got the first pick and trying to get younger from Perry. A) Do I go with Laine over Matthews with first pick? B) Slight chance to get both Laine and Matthews, but it is worth it to trade up and swap out those two for Perry and Forsberg?
- Dobber 2016-09-02 at 09:41Log in to Reply
  
  Goal heavy, it’s Laine
Alex 2016-09-02 at 09:07Log in to Reply

Dobber, question for you. What am I missing on Duclair? Why is he ranked so low? I know he had a high SH% of 19% but if you look at the last 4 months – 45gms 25pts 14.9% SH% (high but much more reasonable). I think he showed more in this rookie season than many of the players much higher on the list, i.e. Anders Lee, Reilly Smith, Granlund, Yakupov, Namestnikov, Horvat. He played only 14.5min/gm and has a clear path as a top line winger.
- Dobber 2016-09-02 at 09:40Log in to Reply
  
  Why don’t you give me a projection for him for each of the next three years and I’ll tell you if/where we see things differently
  - Alex 2016-09-02 at 19:30Log in to Reply
    
    I see him getting between 45 and 50pts this coming season followed by a progression to 60 over the following 2 seasons.
    - Dobber 2016-09-03 at 00:14Log in to Reply
      
      I’m with you there. Maybe not to 60, but it’s reasonable. He’s in that tight area of the rankings where slight tweaks make drastic bumps on the list because so many players get 40-50 points.
      I have him for 41 points in the Fantasy Guide this year. Sophomore slump (mild), weaker lineup, opposition keys on him more, etc.
      If I were to project him for 45 points, his rating would jump to about 51, and that puts him in the Top 140. Because one-year projection has a good impact on the list (immediacy is valuable in keepers, not only because it helps those who need it right away, but it also gives trade value).
      Those four points are probably the biggest discrepancy we have.
Tim 2016-09-02 at 13:48Log in to Reply

I’ve been debating my final keeper (5 total), could use some advice!

It’s a head-to-head 12-team Keeper league

My Keepers are:

T. Hall
J. Klingberg
J. Allen
J. Huberdeau

Now do I keep Eberle or Voracek?

Thanks!!
- Matt Vandenbrand 2016-09-02 at 18:21Log in to Reply
  
  I’d keep Voracek. And personally I don’t think it’s close.
- Dobber 2016-09-03 at 23:33Log in to Reply
  
  Voracek, though my bias for Oilers would have me think about it longer than I should
- Scott McGruer 2016-10-07 at 01:48Log in to Reply
  
  I may reconsider this after seeing McDavid and Eberle together in the preseason.
Scott McGruer 2016-09-04 at 00:19Log in to Reply

Thanks for the list Dobber. I’m curious as to why Werenski is on this list at 385 when Provorov and Theodore are nowhere to be found. Popular opinions are suggesting that those two are on better teams and will produce much more than Werenski. Unless there is some criteria I am ignoring in the introduction, I am not sure why this is.

Second inquiry is about Eichel – I’m guessing you feel he is now way more comfortable playing at this level of hockey and will produce around 65-70 points? I get the feeling that the 15 guys below him will get more points this year, unless once again I am not taking a certain criterion into consideration.
- Dobber 2016-09-04 at 08:17Log in to Reply
  
  Eichel’s projection is in the fantasy guide (hint: higher than the range you give)
  
  Provorov and Theodore are found on this list: http://www.dobberhockey.com/hockey-home/hockey-rankings/top-100-keeper-league-defensemen-september-2016/
david 2016-09-06 at 11:52Log in to Reply

wow, Hank Sedin out of the top 100. Know he’s dropping, but that much? Esp w Loui there, and they will be the only O options on the team..? Radulov 40 slots higher than Hank? Ill take that bet.
Also parise out of top 70? He will be much better w Bruce driving the O in Minny.
- Dobber 2016-09-06 at 11:57Log in to Reply
  
  Hey David, thanks for the comment. I have a couple of quick thoughts
  1. Post your projection for this year for Hank and for Parise. I can tell you mine, and maybe we’ll see where the gap is. Keep in mind that whatever Hank gets this year, in two years it’s probably below 50 points.
  2. I wouldn’t keep Hank in my Keep-12 league. But I’m keeping Radulov. I’ll take the upside and the youth, thank you. And the downside won’t be that big a gap, barring injury (which is a risk for most players).
  3. Loui Eriksson, generally a 55-point player, isn’t going to help Henrik improve by much, let’s not get our hopes up too much!
  - david 2016-09-06 at 12:32Log in to Reply
    
    just curious as you had Hank just outside the top 20 earlier this year (Jan) ..he got 73 a couple years ago and 55 last year, so should be somewhere in there, maybe 60 pts? But understand that older guys slide down the rank. I always thought of him as comparable to Thornton, but Joe’s pts have been much better recent years. Do you think Minny will be significantly more offensive-minded this year?
    - Dobber 2016-09-06 at 23:33Log in to Reply
      
      I think Boudreau has shifted to a more defensive style, based on his last year with Washington and then how things went with Anaheim. So I’m thinking not
      - david 2016-09-07 at 08:43
        
        as a longtime Parise owner, a long suffering Vanek owner, a EStaal owner who gave up, i am fed up with the O black hole that is Minny! ps just bought the guide (6th year i think), great stuff as ever, thanks!
Prag 2016-09-15 at 12:41Log in to Reply

Any way to get this broken out into position (LW, C, RW, D) ? Or add a column for positions?
- Dobber 2016-09-15 at 13:33Log in to Reply
  
  Hey Prag, as the intro states – in this type of league, positions don’t matter. I do have a column indicating defensemen though, to make things easier to identify
Joey Beliveau 2016-09-20 at 16:17Log in to Reply

Why is Cam Atkinson ranked so high? I see names under him that I would take over him in my team. Any particular reasons?
- Dobber 2016-09-20 at 16:39Log in to Reply
  
  I think very highly of him. Right or wrong. Call it a bias, but I like his upside, and his outlook for this year.
  - Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 15:29Log in to Reply
    
    According to your ranking list and the players that were kept in my league and my salary cap space, that would be my list for 1st round pick: 1-Patrik Laine 2-Auston Matthews 3-Jesse Puljujarvi 4-Cam Atkinson 5-Tomas Tatar 6-Valeri Nichushkin (salary unknown)
    
    Does it make sense?
    
    Here are my 12 keepers:
    Crosby
    Tavares
    Drouin
    Teravainen
    Trocheck
    Spooner
    Bennet, Sam
    
    Karlsson
    Doughty
    Shattenkirk
    Deangelo
    
    Price
    - Dobber 2016-09-22 at 15:31Log in to Reply
      
      Yes, but not Nichushkin now because he’s out of the league for two years
      - Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 15:41
        
        So with my situation you would take Atkinson with 4th overall?
      - Dobber 2016-09-22 at 15:53
        
        Are you asking if I would take him over one of the other ’16 draftees? I sure would
      - Dobber 2016-09-22 at 15:54
        
        Oh wait, you can get Gostisbehere? That’s a no-brainer. Take him.
        My rankings, as I say in the intro, do not take position into account.
      - Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 19:16
        
        Thanks! That’s what a I needed to hear!
      - Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 22:33
        
        what if the 3 first picks were Laine, Matthews and Gostisbehere.
        
        Would you go for Puljujarvi?
      - Dobber 2016-09-23 at 08:55
        
        Yes
Joey Beliveau 2016-09-22 at 21:05Log in to Reply

When is the next top 300 Keeper League Skaters?
- Dobber 2016-09-23 at 08:55Log in to Reply
  
  Every 1st of the month, since 2002

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