Top 300 Keeper League Skaters – August 2016

Dobber

2016-08-03

The Top 300 skaters to own in fantasy hockey keeper leagues – August edition. Guess where Connor McFirstPlace ranks?

 

This month, all of my projections for the 11th annual Fantasy Guide were uploaded into these rankings. So this is my annual 'audit' of the rankings, in that sense. In keeper leagues, you have to balance the long-term value of players with immediate playoff. This is why a player like Mitch Marner moves up so many spots. I had initially felt that he would not make the team. However, if he does the make the team as I now project, then the immediate payoff for fantasy teams is great. If he gets cut from training camp, then he'll tumble all the way back to 200th spot in October.

So now there is a new king. Connor McDavid ascends to the top of this list for the very first time. And it works out very nicely (not planned, I swear) that the two cover boys of this year's Fantasy Guide are one-two on this list. To take a look at the Fantasy Guide and what is included – click here.

 

As always, the rankings consider points this year, their 3YP (likelihood points when they peak), their upside, proneness to injury, how their depth chart looks now and in the future (who is ahead of them/who they play with/coaching style). These are for points-only, and of course – positions are not factored (i.e. a defenseman's offensive upside isn't as high as a forward's).

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Note: +/- 5.0 rating points – consider them equal. Tomato/Tomatto – their respective owners probably rate the one they own higher.

 

Aug Player Team DEF? Rating July June Change
1 Connor McDavid EDM   179.8 3 3 2
2 Sidney Crosby PIT   170.6 1 1 -1
3 Patrick Kane CHI   163.5 2 2 -1
4 Jamie Benn DAL   160.5 4 4 0
5 Alex Ovechkin WAS   157.5 6 6 1
6 John Tavares NYI   149.1 7 7 1
7 Tyler Seguin DAL   141.7 5 5 -2
8 Nicklas Backstrom WAS   139.7 8 8 0
9 Johnny Gaudreau CGY   132.8 12 12 3
10 Erik Karlsson OTT y 132.4 11 11 1
11 Jack Eichel BUF   131.6 18 22 7
12 Vladimir Tarasenko STL   130.5 14 15 2
13 Evgeny Kuznetsov WAS   124.0 9 9 -4
14 Blake Wheeler WPG   122.6 25 25 11
15 Claude Giroux PHI   118.8 13 14 -2
16 Nikita Kucherov TBL   117.2 22 23 6
17 Evgeni Malkin PIT   115.9 10 10 -7
18 Ryan Getzlaf ANA   115.0 19 18 1
19 Steven Stamkos TBL   113.3 16 17 -3
20 Joe Pavelski SJS   112.6 15 16 -5
21 Anze Kopitar LAK   112.2 21 19 0
22 Artemi Panarin CHI   107.6 36 35 14
23 Ryan Johansen NSH   106.7 33 33 10
24 Nathan MacKinnon COL   106.5 24 24 0
25 Phil Kessel PIT   105.9 23 21 -2
26 Filip Forsberg NSH   105.2 37 38 11
27 Taylor Hall NJD   105.0 17 13 -10
28 Sean Monahan CGY   104.2 44 47 16
29 Jakub Voracek PHI   104.1 20 20 -9
30 Corey Perry ANA   103.6 26 26 -4
31 Brent Burns SJS y 103.4 31 29 0
32 Jonathan Huberdeau FLA   101.8 42 41 10
33 Jordan Eberle EDM   100.7 35 36 2
34 Mark Stone OTT   97.1 30 31 -4
35 Joe Thornton SJS   96.8 32 30 -3
36 Tyler Toffoli LAK   95.4 43 44 7
37 Mark Scheifele WPG   94.5 53 56 16
38 Tyler Johnson TBL   93.7 34 34 -4
39 Alex Galchenyuk MON   93.0 50 52 11
40 Matt Duchene COL   92.6 27 27 -13
41 Aleksander Barkov FLA   91.7 40 42 -1
42 Patrik Laine WPG   91.5 46 NR 4
43 Auston Matthews TOR   91.4 41 NR -2
44 Derek Stepan NYR   89.9 58 49 14
45 Gabriel Landeskog COL   89.6 54 53 9
46 Ryan O'Reilly BUF   89.5 57 59 11
47 P.K. Subban NSH y 89.2 47 50 0
48 Jonathan Toews CHI   89.2 38 37 -10
49 John Klingberg DAL y 88.3 29 28 -20
50 Max Pacioretty MON   88.0 51 51 1
51 Leon Draisaitl EDM   86.9 28 32 -23
52 Teuvo Teravainen  CAR   85.3 92 113 40
53 Bobby Ryan OTT   84.4 49 46 -4
54 Logan Couture SJS   83.8 39 39 -15
55 Kyle Okposo BUF   82.9 52 40 -3
56 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins EDM   82.3 45 43 -11
57 Kris Letang PIT y 81.2 64 61 7
58 Jaden Schwartz STL   81.2 83 77 25
59 Brayden Schenn PHI   80.7 48 45 -11
60 Alexander Radulov MON   78.8 115 214 55
61 James van Riemsdyk TOR   77.7 67 63 6
62 Mike Hoffman OTT   76.0 62 60 0
63 Roman Josi NSH y 75.9 78 79 15
64 Ondrej Palat TBL   75.7 71 69 7
65 Jason Spezza DAL   75.2 63 58 -2
66 Patrice Bergeron BOS   74.9 60 55 -6
67 Sam Bennett CGY   74.2 102 106 35
68 Derick Brassard OTT   73.8 69 62 1
69 Jonathan Drouin TBL   73.6 94 93 25
70 Oliver Ekman-Larsson ARI y 73.4 59 57 -11
71 Nikolaj Ehlers WPG   72.3 70 72 -1
72 Kyle Turris OTT   72.1 108 107 36
73 Zach Parise MIN   71.8 79 75 6
74 Gustav Nyquist DET   71.5 91 87 17
75 Milan Lucic EDM   71.3 124 132 49
76 Daniel Sedin VAN   71.2 56 48 -20
77 Andrew Ladd NYI   71.1 89 92 12
78 Mitch Marner TOR   69.1 201 202 123
79 Sam Reinhart BUF   69.0 77 85 -2
80 Jesse Puljujarvi EDM   68.5 55 NR -25
81 Bryan Little WPG   68.4 80 82 -1
82 Cam Atkinson CBJ   68.3 114 111 32
83 Rick Nash NYR   68.3 88 74 5
84 Brandon Saad CBJ   68.1 116 116 32
85 Robby Fabbri STL   67.4 68 64 -17
86 Jeff Carter LAK   67.4 73 70 -13
87 Tomas Tatar DET   67.3 101 98 14
88 Brad Marchand BOS   67.1 86 81 -2
89 Nazem Kadri TOR   67.0 93 90 4
90 T.J. Oshie WAS   66.9 74 71 -16
91 John Carlson WAS y 66.7 120 115 29
92 Vincent Trocheck FLA   66.4 82 83 -10
93 Max Domi ARI   66.3 66 65 -27
94 Valeri Nichushkin DAL   65.8 105 102 11
95 Drew Doughty LAK y 65.7 99 96 4
96 Mats Zuccarello NYR   65.4 85 76 -11
97 Dylan Larkin DET   65.4 90 89 -7
98 Keith Yandle FLA y 65.1 107 99 9
99 Wayne Simmonds PHI   65.0 111 105 12
100 Kevin Shattenkirk STL y 64.9 96 88 -4
101 Henrik Sedin VAN   64.2 61 54 -40
102 Mika Zibanejad NYR   64.1 103 104 1
103 Dustin Byfuglien WPG y 63.9 97 97 -6
104 Chris Kreider NYR   63.3 126 118 22
105 Nino Niederreiter MIN   63.1 87 86 -18
106 Mikkel Boedker SJS   62.9 65 67 -41
107 Mikael Granlund MIN   62.2 133 128 26
108 Andre Burakovsky WAS   60.9 132 129 24
109 Patric Hornqvist PIT   60.6 76 73 -33
110 Ryan Strome NYI   60.0 84 84 -26
111 Carl Soderberg COL   59.5 118 112 7
112 Nick Foligno CBJ   59.1 113 109 1
113 Marcus Johansson WAS   59.0 106 101 -7
114 Ryan Spooner BOS   58.8 109 108 -5
115 Kyle Palmieri NJD   58.6 119 117 4
116 Adam Henrique NJD   58.4 152 149 36
117 Patrick Sharp DAL   58.4 81 80 -36
118 Sean Couturier PHI   58.2 131 126 13
119 Nick Bjugstad FLA   58.0 128 123 9
120 Brendan Gallagher MON   57.6 100 100 -20
121 J.T. Miller NYR   57.3 127 120 6
122 Alexander Wennberg CBJ   57.2 95 94 -27
123 David Krejci BOS   57.1 135 127 12
124 Loui Eriksson VAN   56.7 75 68 -49
125 Anders Lee NYI   55.3 117 114 -8
126 James Neal NSH   55.2 110 103 -16
127 Elias Lindholm CAR   55.1 136 133 9
128 Mark Giordano CGY y 54.9 123 122 -5
129 Tyson Barrie COL y 54.5 129 124 0
130 Dougie Hamilton CGY y 54.2 165 166 35
131 Tomas Plekanec MON   53.5 122 121 -9
132 David Backes BOS   53.3 149 130 17
133 Charlie Coyle MIN   53.0 139 137 6
134 Rickard Rakell ANA   52.7 150 148 16
135 Victor Hedman TBL y 52.6 138 135 3
136 Kevin Hayes NYR   52.4 167 160 31
137 Shayne Gostisbehere PHI y 51.5 137 134 0
138 Jeff Skinner CAR   51.4 148 144 10
139 Vladislav Namestnikov TBL   51.2 162 159 23
140 Jakob Silfverberg ANA   51.1 169 164 29
141 Paul Stastny STL   50.9 140 131 -1
142 Bo Horvat VAN   49.7 170 167 28
143 Nail Yakupov EDM   49.4 112 119 -31
144 Mathieu Perreault WPG   48.9 144 142 0
145 Victor Rask CAR   48.4 154 152 9
146 Aaron Ekblad FLA y 48.2 175 174 29
147 Reilly Smith FLA   47.3 160 156 13
148 Jussi Jokinen FLA   46.7 141 136 -7
149 Shea Weber MON y 46.7 121 110 -28
150 Tomas Hertl SJS   46.5 125 125 -25
151 Jean-Gabriel Pageau OTT   46.3 173 173 22
152 Morgan Rielly TOR y 46.3 164 162 12
153 Dylan Strome ARI   46.1 196 198 43
154 Boone Jenner CBJ   45.7 143 140 -11
155 Mikko Koivu MIN   45.7 145 138 -10
156 Duncan Keith CHI y 45.1 98 91 -58
157 William Nylander TOR   44.6 197 195 40
158 Evander Kane BUF   44.0 166 165 8
159 Alex Killorn TBL   43.9 147 143 -12
160 Tyler Ennis BUF   43.8 158 157 -2
161 Anthony Duclair ARI   43.7 142 141 -19
162 Alex Pietrangelo STL y 43.7 198 187 36
163 Henrik Zetterberg DET   43.4 104 95 -59
164 Frans Nielsen DET   43.1 161 151 -3
165 Seth Jones CBJ y 42.9 202 200 37
166 Oliver Bjorkstrand CBJ   42.6 208 210 42
167 Sebastian Aho CAR   41.8 247 258 80
168 David Pastrnak BOS   41.5 212 219 44
169 Craig Smith NSH   41.3 159 153 -10
170 Justin Faulk CAR y 40.9 174 171 4
171 Nick Bonino PIT   40.9 190 185 19
172 Eric Staal MIN   39.4 155 147 -17
173 Pavel Zacha NJD   39.3 268 288 95
174 Jiri Hudler UFA   39.2 130 78 -44
175 Colin Wilson NSH   38.6 178 172 3
176 Pierre-Luc Dubois CBJ   38.4 134 NR -42
177 David Perron STL   38.4 187 161 10
178 Jason Pominville MIN   37.8 156 150 -22
179 Brock Nelson NYI   37.2 157 154 -22
180 Ryan Kesler ANA   37.2 179 180 -1
181 Tanner Pearson LAK   37.1 172 170 -9
182 Alexander Steen STL   36.9 72 66 -110
183 Artem Anisimov CHI   36.8 192 186 9
184 Joonas Donskoi SJS   36.6 184 182 0
185 Mike Cammalleri NJD   36.3 153 146 -32
186 Sven Bärtschi VAN   36.0 229 223 43
187 Ryan Suter MIN y 35.5 163 158 -24
188 Christian Dvorak ARI   35.3 203 201 15
189 Jimmy Vesey BUF   34.6 239 243 50
190 Curtis Lazar OTT   34.5 185 189 -5
191 Nick Leddy NYI y 34.1 183 178 -8
192 Sami Vatanen ANA y 33.8 182 176 -10
193 Martin Hanzal ARI   33.8 171 163 -22
194 Chris Kunitz PIT   33.2 199 190 5
195 Teddy Purcell LAK   33.2 168 155 -27
196 Benoit Pouliot EDM   33.0 189 191 -7
197 Scott Hartnell CBJ   32.5 177 169 -20
198 Troy Brouwer CGY   32.1 337 253 139
199 Tyler Bozak TOR   31.9 176 168 -23
200 Calle Jarnkrok NSH   31.9 328 318 128
201 TJ Brodie CGY y 31.6 200 183 -1
202 Jordan Staal CAR   31.6 209 199 7
203 David Desharnais MON   31.4 194 194 -9
204 Brandon Dubinsky CBJ   30.8 188 181 -16
205 Tyler Motte CHI   30.1 NR NR NEW
206 Frank Vatrano BOS   30.1 280 291 74
207 Jonathan Marchessault FLA   29.4 252 275 45
208 Justin Williams WAS   29.1 191 179 -17
209 Drew Stafford WPG   29.1 207 203 -2
210 Cody Eakin DAL   28.8 205 197 -5
211 Patrick Marleau SJS   28.5 146 139 -65
212 Mike Ribeiro NSH   28.2 274 259 62
213 Joe Colborne COL   28.0 283 277 70
214 Thomas Vanek DET   27.9 151 145 -63
215 Carl Hagelin PIT   27.8 237 220 22
216 Ryan McDonagh NYR y 27.8 235 235 19
217 Chris Tierney SJS   27.7 180 177 -37
218 Adam Larsson EDM y 27.5 213 384 -5
219 Brett Connolly WAS   26.8 222 250 3
220 Anton Stralman TBL y 26.4 220 215 0
221 Rasmus Ristolainen BUF y 26.1 193 193 -28
222 Mathew Barzal NYI   25.9 232 242 10
223 Erik Haula MIN   25.7 186 175 -37
224 Ryan Ellis NSH y 25.5 225 221 1
225 Torey Krug BOS y 25.4 266 268 41
226 Adam Lowry WPG   25.4 226 233 0
227 Kyle Connor WPG   25.1 214 227 -13
228 Michael Frolik CGY   24.7 181 184 -47
229 Jake Muzzin LAK y 24.3 219 216 -10
230 Mikhail Grigorenko COL   24.2 210 207 -20
231 Jori Lehtera STL   24.2 217 208 -14
232 Andreas Athanasiou DET   23.8 242 244 10
233 Vladimir Sobotka STL   23.5 408 405 175
234 Anthony Mantha DET   23.4 228 229 -6
235 Kevin Fiala NSH   23.3 231 230 -4
236 Josh Bailey NYI   23.2 255 248 19
237 Sven Andrighetto MON   23.0 224 217 -13
238 Mikael Backlund CGY   23.0 261 269 23
239 Colton Parayko STL y 22.8 273 280 34
240 Dmitrij Jaskin STL   22.8 216 204 -24
241 Patrick Maroon EDM   22.7 227 213 -14
242 Jared McCann FLA   22.7 234 238 -8
243 Tobias Rieder ARI   22.5 195 192 -48
244 Mikko Rantanen COL   22.3 230 239 -14
245 Martin Reway MON   22.3 NR NR NEW
246 Peter Holland TOR   22.2 206 196 -40
247 Shane Prince NYI   22.2 215 218 -32
248 Sonny Milano CBJ   21.7 240 247 -8
249 Cody Ceci OTT y 21.4 358 370 109
250 Marc-Edouard Vlasic SJS y 21.4 218 212 -32
251 Nick Ritchie ANA   21.3 236 241 -15
252 Travis Konecny PHI   21.3 244 256 -8
253 Mattias Ekholm NSH y 21.3 267 266 14
254 Clayton Keller ARI   21.3 245 NR -9
255 Valtteri Filppula TBL   21.2 288 205 33
256 Nikolay Goldobin SJS   21.1 248 252 -8
257 Teemu Pulkkinen DET   20.8 238 231 -19
258 Jakub Vrana WAS   20.7 250 254 -8
259 Matt Dumba MIN y 20.6 289 299 30
260 Hampus Lindholm ANA y 20.6 329 328 69
261 Brent Seabrook CHI y 20.6 204 188 -57
262 Kerby Rychel TOR   20.1 223 225 -39
263 Tomas Jurco DET   19.8 258 255 -5
264 Jaromir Jagr FLA   19.6 298 273 34
265 Timo Meier SJS   19.6 260 276 -5
266 William Karlsson CBJ   19.6 299 305 33
267 Jacob Trouba WPG y 19.4 284 306 17
268 Ty Rattie STL   19.3 264 264 -4
269 Jason Zucker MIN   19.2 398 386 129
270 Clarke MacArthur OTT   19.1 432 434 162
271 Mike Matheson FLA y 19.0 412 416 141
272 Cam Fowler ANA y 18.9 339 332 67
273 Matthew Tkachuk CGY   18.9 265 NR -8
274 Alex Tuch MIN   18.6 313 292 39
275 Brett Ritchie DAL   18.5 270 274 -5
276 Matt Nieto SJS   18.3 368 358 92
277 Nick Cousins PHI   18.1 NR NR NEW
278 Jake Gardiner TOR y 18.1 262 257 -16
279 Charles Hudon MON   18.0 277 270 -2
280 Jake Virtanen VAN   17.9 279 294 -1
281 Joel Eriksson Ek MIN   17.9 249 263 -32
282 Connor Brown TOR   17.8 269 265 -13
283 Justin Abdelkader DET   17.8 211 209 -72
284 Jimmy Hayes BOS   17.8 241 234 -43
285 Devin Shore DAL   17.7 281 287 -4
286 Devante Smith-Pelly NJD   17.5 406 401 120
287 Kalle Kossila ANA   17.5 NR NR NEW
288 Lawson Crouse FLA   17.4 330 342 42
289 Francis Perron OTT   17.3 NR NR NEW
290 Alexander Nylander BUF   17.3 287 NR -3
291 Pavel Buchnevich NYR   17.3 272 301 -19
292 Colin White OTT   17.3 334 347 42
293 Nick Schmaltz CHI   17.3 335 341 42
294 Anton Rodin VAN   17.2 NR NR NEW
295 Conor Sheary PIT   17.1 257 260 -38
296 Mattias Janmark DAL   16.9 253 251 -43
297 Reid Boucher NJD   16.7 282 283 -15
298 Justin Schultz PIT y 16.7 394 309 96
299 Brayden Point TBL   16.7 292 279 -7
300 Kevin Labanc SJS   16.7 293 298 -7
               
               
Aug Player Team DEF? Rating July June Change
233 Vladimir Sobotka STL   23.5 408 405 175
330 Mike Green DET y 15.1 504 521 174
270 Clarke MacArthur OTT   19.1 432 434 162
271 Mike Matheson FLA y 19.0 412 416 141
198 Troy Brouwer CGY   32.1 337 253 139
269 Jason Zucker MIN   19.2 398 386 129
200 Calle Jarnkrok NSH   31.9 328 318 128
78 Mitch Marner TOR   69.1 201 202 123
286 Devante Smith-Pelly NJD   17.5 406 401 120
               
Aug Player Team DEF? Rating July June Change
549 Kris Versteeg UFA   0.0 365 272 -184
471 Shane Doan ARI   5.1 290 237 -181
492 Leo Komarov TOR   4.1 318 303 -174
384 Marian Gaborik LAK   11.2 221 211 -163
555 Mikhail Grabovski NYI   -0.5 392 371 -163
578 Joffrey Lupul TOR   -3.0 423 404 -155
455 Niklas Kronwall DET y 5.7 308 289 -147
446 Anton Slepyshev EDM   6.0 303 302 -143
               
Aug Player Team DEF? Rating July June Change
205 Tyler Motte CHI   30.1 NR NR NEW
245 Martin Reway MON   22.3 NR NR NEW
277 Nick Cousins PHI   18.1 NR NR NEW
287 Kalle Kossila ANA   17.5 NR NR NEW
289 Francis Perron OTT   17.3 NR NR NEW
294 Anton Rodin VAN   17.2 NR NR NEW
311 Alan Quine NYI   15.9 NR NR NEW
322 J.T. Compher COL   15.4 NR NR NEW
332 Drake Caggiula EDM   15.0 NR NR NEW
349 Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson BOS   14.0 NR NR NEW
352 Jean-Christophe Beaudin COL   13.6 NR NR NEW
391 Anthony Beauvillier NYI   10.8 NR NR NEW
402 Nick Shore LAK   9.6 NR NR NEW
427 Jordan Schmaltz STL y 7.3 NR NR NEW
438 Linus Hultstrom FLA y 6.4 NR NR NEW
452 Laurent Dauphin ARI   5.9 NR NR NEW
518 Jake Walman STL y 2.5 NR NR NEW
528 Josh Anderson CBJ   1.8 NR NR NEW
540 Michal Kempny CHI y 0.7 NR NR NEW

50 Comments

  1. Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 13:50

    I would love to know the reason of the drop (110) of Alex Steen… just ahead of Sven Baertschi ??

    • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 14:03

      Are you in any points-only keeper leagues?

      • Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 14:26

        yeah (goal = 1pts, pass = 1pts for forwards) but still !
        Obvioulsy a ranking like that is always subject to discussions and im ok with that :-)
        But just another one for the road, Atkinson before Jenner and Saad ?
        Otherwise i really appreciate your work ;-)

        • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 14:36

          I have Atkinson, no way I’d trade him for Jenner the plugger (Foligno Part 2?), or Saad who I don’t believe has Atkinson’s upside.

          Steen – So he’s out to start much of this year, and so he’s pretty useless in points-only leagues (42 points? Wouldn’t even make my pro team). So now you own him for future years – and next year he’s 33. How much will he get at 33 in what is now more of a depth role with the Blues? Pass.

          • Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 14:55

            come on… you can’t compare Jenner with Foligno.
            Atkinson is a good little player but you already see the best of him… Jenner as way more potential than Atkinson, maybe not upsides but potential.

            Steen 52 pts, not 42, in 67 games. he will be ready for the start of the season and should be the linemate of tarasenko for few years

          • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 15:26

            You’re right – what Foligno did shocked the hell out of me. Jenner could never do that.
            Then again, I only live near Oshawa and watched Jenner grow up with Generals so what do I know? ;)

            If Steen is ready to start the season, then yes he would have some value. But he won’t be. Otherwise you would have said something after you read it in my Fantasy Guide, right?

          • Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 15:35

            I bet my annual subscription to your guides that Jenner will hit the 35 goals – 60 pts this year if healthy and Cam will be near of this… only if he can stay on the 1st line with Jenner :-)
            Steen is a warrior… fuck the world cup but he will be there for the 1st game

          • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 15:39

            Well, I don’t agree. So you’ll have to like my Rankings except for the Steen, Jenner and Atkinson parts.

            Jenner is a third-liner and he gets hurt too much to ever see that bet through (your words “if healthy” will probably void the bet). But he won’t do that if he’s healthy. Cam drags up Jenner’s offense, not the other way around. Why won’t people in my leagues think as you do? I could never get Atkinson by offering up Jenner…I wish

          • Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 15:47

            So… free lifetime subscription if Jenner hit the 60 pts ? ;-)

          • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 16:20

            Not if I don’t get anything. That’s not a bet, that’s what we call ‘a gift’

          • grapes 2016-08-03 at 17:49

            ‘a gift’. Dobber you crack me up.
            Made my day. Thanks

          • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 15:31

            If you think we’ve seen the best of Atkinson, then you’ll be in for a surprise shortly. Do yourself a favor and have a little faith. Steady SOG and S% increase, consistent pts/gp increase, about to hit his prime. He’s right on target, watch

          • Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 15:42

            Not difficult, he play with way better player in Columbus then few years ago :-)

  2. SB M 2016-08-03 at 14:46

    52 seems awfully high for Teravainen, he hasn’t really done much with the chances he has had. He’s certainly a player I would target in keeper leagues but not over some of the names below him.

    • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 15:25

      You can get a guy after he breaks out for 55+ points, or you can get the guy before then. Your call, I’m just here to help ;)

      • SB M 2016-08-04 at 09:12

        Ha ha, fair enough. I already hold Teuvo in my league so I hope you’re right.

  3. Daniel Sandler 2016-08-03 at 15:50

    What’s with the 11 rank jump from Wheeler? Did the rankings not change a lot in July after the Draft? Not sure of this affected other guys a lot too, he’s just the first one I noticed to be surprisingly high with a big positive change in rank

    • Frederic Larose 2016-08-03 at 15:52

      Wheeler should be at this spot for a while… agreed on this one :-)

    • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 16:20

      I explained the big changes in the intro

      • Daniel Sandler 2016-08-03 at 17:33

        Maybe I’m just not reading it right when I read it but I still don’t get why Wheeler had such a big bump. Laine was already in the July rankings so it’s not like your projections didn’t involve him and it doesn’t seem like you really updated it unless you shifted all the A’s for Laine’s goals from someone else. Meanwhile I don’t know what happened that could have pushed Giroux, Malkin and Stamkos down recently while also moving Wheeler so far up that couldn’t have been considered in July

        • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 19:49

          Well, I said in the intro that I imported my projections for this season. That this is my yearly ‘audit’. So these are the projections most accurate for the year. Then each of the next 11 months, my ‘tweaks’ start getting used again. And by the 11th month, all that tweaking made a few of the players a little inaccurate. And then – bam, I have my August ‘audit’ and the players reset properly.

          So in July, when I ‘ballparked’ the 16-17 projection for Wheeler, I was obviously 7 or 8 points lower than what the projection actually ended up at.
          And in July my ‘ballpark’ had overshot Malkin, Giroux and Stamkos when in fact thorough analysis and the use of my formula gave me a 16-17 number that was somewhat lower.

  4. Brian 2016-08-03 at 23:36

    I am posting this as someone who believes McDavid should’ve won the Calder over Panarin. I do not think that after 45 games, McDavid deserves to be crowned best fantasy player in hockey. Just my opinion, but it seems like he is being given the shiny new toy treatment.

    • Dobber 2016-08-03 at 23:39

      Solid point, but answer me this – if you owned McDavid, would you trade him for Crosby? POINTS ONLY.
      I wouldn’t (and as a Crosby owner, I would trade him for McDavid). So I guess that pretty much puts him on top (I wouldn’t trade Crosby for Kane in a million years, just to cut off any rebuttal involving Kane…)

      • Brian 2016-08-04 at 02:37

        That question would depend on whether I was rebuilding or contending. If I was rebuilding then Crosby’s age comes into play, hence I would go with McDavid. If I was contending, I would stick with Crosby, Kane or Ovechkin over McDavid. I am not saying McDavid won’t get there…I am a big fan…just not after 45 games.

        • Dobber 2016-08-04 at 09:12

          So there’s your answer.
          1. I wouldn’t trade McDavid for Crosby. But I would trade Crosby for McDavid.
          2. The guy in my league who owns McDavid said “no” when I offered him Crosby.
          3. The guy in my other league who owns McDavid said “no” when I offered him Malkin and Kucherov.
          4. You would trade McDavid for Crosby – some of the time.

          Conclusion – most people would trade McDavid in most situations, but not in all. Therefore, McDavid should be ranked first…but only by a slim margin. Like 179.8 to 170.6 ;)

        • Dobber 2016-08-04 at 09:14

          If the league counts other categories (which is not about these rankings, this is points-only), then Ovechkin should be king.
          Kane I’m still not sold on last year. At all. I wouldn’t even trade my Tavares for him (even though the formula has Kane ranked above Tavares).

  5. Jones 2016-08-05 at 06:39

    I know Klefbom have had his fair share of injuries, but shouldn’t the #1 D on the Oilers, the guy who will most likely play with McDavid, Lucic, and Eberle on the PP, be on this list? Over guys such as Justin Schulz?

    • Dobber 2016-08-05 at 07:26

      Larsson is on the list already, way ahead of Schultz

      • Jones 2016-08-05 at 07:31

        He sure is, but what about Klefbom? I think we can safely assume that without injuries, he will be their number 1 choice.

        • Dobber 2016-08-05 at 08:53

          A LH shot D I don’t believe will part of what they picture for their power play. At least their top one. That’s why they paid out the butt for Larsson. Klef will be a middle-of-the road two-way D who misses 10-15 games per year with injuries.

  6. Anthony Young 2016-08-09 at 20:56

    Huberdeau over Barkov? Is it because it is harder to get a good scoring LW than a C? Also, you think that Johasen will outscore Scheifele? I can see it happening this year,but if we consider long-term upside (as I think we should for keeper leagues) I was thinking that Scheifele will maybe be better surounded than Johansen (Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers vs Forsberg, Neal, Wilson or Jarnkrok). What do you think?

    • Dobber 2016-08-09 at 21:04

      Hi Anthony, positions don’t factor into this. Huberdeau is above Barkov because Barkov gets injured a lot. At this point I rate him a high likelihood of missing over a dozen games this year.
      Scheifele over Johansen – that’s a tough one, I would still prefer Johansen at this point

      • Anthony Young 2016-08-09 at 21:14

        That’s a good point, I knew Barkov missed nearly 20 games this year, but I forgot he also got injured (especially in his first season).
        Also, if postions do not factor, you rank Huberdeau over Scheifele? Is it because of injuries as well? He missed just 11 games this year and none the previous season.

        Thanks, always great reading you

  7. Chris Liggio 2016-08-13 at 08:48

    Josi has to be higher; him and Eberle need to swap he is too valuable only 4 defenders posted sixty plus points last season and he is one that should vault him higher than 63.

  8. Norm Carriere 2016-08-16 at 16:49

    Marian Hossa isnt ranked in the top 300?

    • Dobber 2016-08-16 at 17:46

      Nope! I had kind of mixed feelings when I saw that. I drafted him as an 18 year old!
      He’s 315. Out of curiosity, how many points do you see him getting this year? (and it’s only going to get worse from there)

      • Norm Carriere 2016-08-17 at 11:00

        I know his production has dropped, but he is still a great…ish player.
        Lining up with Toews of course helps, I think his production is really going to depend on his health and who the else is on the 2nd line. If he can play 75-82 games and gets good chemistry I think he will be a great bounce back player. I would like to see him line up with Motte, or Vesey if they can sign him. Time will tell.

        • Dobber 2016-08-17 at 11:14

          He’s 37 and will never get 50 points again. He’s a dropsy in all three of my keeper leagues (one league he may be worthy as a waiver pickup at a few points during the season, but not draftable) and playing with a promising rookie would make the outlook worse, not better. I like Vesey and Motte, but Hossa should be helping them not the other way around.

          • Norm Carriere 2016-08-17 at 11:27

            Valid, that’s why it’s your website. I guess I’m trying to justify for drafting him in one keeper league. I’ll give him a try out and drop if needed. Cheers

          • Dobber 2016-08-17 at 11:39

            What are your other options? There has to be a better player you can roll the dice on, unless this is the 26th round and your league has more than 12 teams

          • Norm Carriere 2016-08-17 at 11:46

            Well there were other options (draft is 2 weeks past) but its a 12 team keeper league carry over 24 players (12 fwd, 5 D, 2 G) plus there is a separate prospect roster. League is 15+ years going, So there is a lot of players gone already. The draft is usually 1st and 2nd round prospects and fillers. I have a pretty solid team, and decent prospect roster already. I rolled the dice on him thinking he would be a decent filler on wing, cap hit is high ( we are a cap league) but I figure I can always drop. I drafted him higher than I should have, but the real deal was getting Mathews (I had the 1st overall). So in short, I would have got a late NHL 1st rounder or 2nd round draft player.

  9. Javin C 2016-08-26 at 16:27

    How in the world do you have Backstrom over Tarasenko on a keeper league?? Are you high or just out of your mind. A 29 year old that showed injury problems last year vs. the next Ovechkin who is 24

    • Dobber 2016-08-27 at 19:32

      ^ What does everybody else think of this comment? Curious if there is a single person on Planet Earth who feels the same way?

      Javin, you speak of 29 as if he’s ready for the old-age home instead of at the heart of his prime, and you speak of the 7 games he missed last year as this serious problem that he has – when he hasn’t missed a game in any of the three prior years. The guy had an Iron Man streak going. And truth be told, Tarasenko is lower in small part because of is mild injury risk (missed 2, 5, and 18 games over last three years versus Backstrom missing 7, 0, and 0)

      Tarasenko’s best season is 74 points, Backstrom (who is only 28) beat that four times (and counting).

      • Javin C 2016-08-27 at 21:08

        You have Radulov and Brassard over guys like OEL and Sam Bennett. How is this a keeper league ranking?

        ^ is to point out some more idiotic offenses you made in this list. In terms of the subject at hand, Tarasenko has 1 less point in the last 2 years than Backstrom and he’s 4 years younger. You need to get off the drugs man. Backstrom has played with Ovi his whole career (I love Backstrom btw, he is just way too high on this list) versus Tarasenko has played with nobody near his talent level, albeit guys like Fabbri look pretty good. Don’t even get me started on the fact you have a 31 year old Ryan Getzlaf in the top 20.

        • Dobber 2016-08-27 at 21:14

          Oh wow…whoa. You’d get absolutely massacred in my league.
          I hope the reason for your being so far off base is because you didn’t read the note at the top describing what keeper league this list is for. Yikes. I can’t even rebut this – it would be like trying to explain to someone that the sky isn’t purple.

  10. mrod 2016-08-27 at 21:34

    In my current keeper league, you have to start 6 f, 3 d, 1 goalie. I can keep 8 guys. Right now I am keeping 7 forwards and 1 goalie. But I have a chance to pickup doughty but would have to drop either Nugent-Hopkins, Turris, or Tyler Johnson…. What should I do!?

  11. mrod 2016-08-30 at 15:12

    One more quick question. Just joined a new keeper league. I was able to draft pacioretty. I have a potential opportunity to trade him for Scheifele 1 for 1. Should I do this? And if I can do this, if possible should I trade Scheifele 1 for 1 for Ryan Johansen? Im torn… Thanks!

    • Dobber 2016-08-30 at 17:33

      I would trade Pacioretty for Scheifele and I would be tempted to flip him for RyJo – but I’ll leave the latter decision up to you

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