Ramblings: Vesey, Kreider, Pouliot, the Hip and more (Aug 22)



Rambling about… (Bah, why not) let’s hear from Dobber on this whole Jimmy Vesey thing …


If you’ve read this far (as in – past the intro line) then I’m assuming you’re not yet sick of people giving their views on Jimmy Vesey as a Ranger. Right here on this very site you’ve had Cliffy’s take on it (here), Parker’s take on it (here), and from Fragopoulos (here). None of the three contradicted each other (trust me – they are more than welcome to) and each brought a different piece to the conversation. I agree with all three of them, and all I can really add is some shake-my-head stuff regarding the logic behind the decision (from both sides).

First of all, I’m shocked. I indicated this last week in the Ramblings that if he signed with anyone besides Toronto or Boston I would be shocked. And although the Rangers were (barely) on my radar, they were almost on that radar as a joke. As if the very thought of him wanting to sign there would cause me to spontaneously chuckle, regardless of what I was doing. I mean – why would he? It’s obvious that whatever he was promised in terms of ice time/opportunity/linemates that the promise won't come true. This is a deep team with a lot of skilled forwards with similar upside. So regardless of any promise, he’ll be shuffled up and down the lineup throughout the season. This would not be the case with Toronto, Buffalo, Boston or Nashville. On those four teams, a top-six spot promised would be a top-six spot fulfilled. On the Rangers? Hell no. So in my opinion Vesey agreed to one of the worst situations for both his short- and long-term potential.

A couple of players not mentioned in the other articles are Nicklas Jensen and Josh Jooris, neither of whom I had making the team. But with Vesey in the mix it’s almost certain that they won’t. And Jensen had been doing well in the minors since joining the organization. He’s 23 now so this is probably his last shot, or perhaps one more in 2017. Prospects rarely get a look once they turn 25 as organizations tend to shift focus away from them (give up on them) and instead look at the 19- and 20-year-olds. Jooris, for example, is 26 and the Rangers could care less if he becomes a career minor-leaguer.


Correction – I do disagree slightly with Mike about Chris Kreider. I acquired Kreider on the cheap two years ago when his owner grew impatient with him. I landed him with pretty much zero expectations for the last two seasons. I had my eye on 2016-17 all along. This is the year that a player like that really comes into his own. He’s 25 and entering his prime four years (25-29). He’s a big (6-3, 226) power forward. He’s had just over three full NHL seasons of experience (i.e. entering his fourth year).