Top 300 Keeper League Skaters – March 2017

Dobber

2017-03-06

The Top 300 skaters to own in your points-only keeper league – March edition. McDavid back on top

The adjustments from the trade deadline are in and here are the results. Don't forget, +/- 5.0 rating points should be considered equal value and any trade involving two players in that range would depend on need. These are for points-only leagues where positions do not matter. Factors in short-term, long-term, proneness to injury, place in the depth chart, distance from prime years

March	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	Feb	Jan	Change
1	Connor McDavid	EDM		192.4	2	1	1
2	Sidney Crosby	PIT		191.2	1	2	-1
3	Patrick Kane	CHI		158.0	3	3	0
4	Evgeni Malkin	PIT		151.0	4	5	0
5	Tyler Seguin	DAL		142.7	7	4	2
6	Nicklas Backstrom	WAS		142.5	6	11	0
7	Nikita Kucherov	TBL		141.1	10	8	3
8	Alex Ovechkin	WAS		135.4	5	9	-3
9	Brent Burns	SJS	y	135.1	14	18	5
10	Jamie Benn	DAL		134.4	9	7	-1
11	Mark Scheifele	WPG		132.6	11	16	0
12	Vladimir Tarasenko	STL		129.1	8	6	-4
13	John Tavares	NYI		127.9	12	10	-1
14	Phil Kessel	PIT		124.5	13	13	-1
15	Evgeny Kuznetsov	WAS		122.5	15	27	0
16	Patrik Laine	WPG		120.2	20	21	4
17	Artemi Panarin	CHI		119.3	16	12	-1
18	Erik Karlsson	OTT	y	117.5	17	14	-1
19	Auston Matthews	TOR		114.5	19	15	0
20	Brad Marchand	BOS		114.2	42	55	22
21	Leon Draisaitl	EDM		112.1	18	24	-3
22	Joe Pavelski	SJS		110.1	22	20	0
23	Jack Eichel	BUF		107.7	29	25	6
24	Nikolaj Ehlers	WPG		106.1	26	30	2
25	Jakub Voracek	PHI		106.0	21	22	-4
26	Blake Wheeler	WPG		105.7	27	26	1
27	Mikael Granlund	MIN		102.3	45	49	18
28	Johnny Gaudreau	CGY		100.8	24	23	-4
29	Mitch Marner	TOR		100.8	30	39	1
30	Cam Atkinson	CBJ		98.5	28	29	-2
31	Ryan Getzlaf	ANA		98.0	23	17	-8
32	Ryan Johansen	NSH		97.5	34	33	2
33	Nathan MacKinnon	COL		96.6	31	35	-2
34	Filip Forsberg	NSH		96.0	46	43	12
35	Max Pacioretty	MON		93.5	36	42	1
36	Alexander Wennberg	CBJ		93.2	32	38	-4
37	Mark Stone	OTT		92.9	35	37	-2
38	Jonathan Toews	CHI		91.7	56	80	18
39	Victor Hedman	TBL	y	90.7	48	77	9
40	Claude Giroux	PHI		89.2	25	19	-15
41	Taylor Hall	NJD		89.1	43	36	2
42	James van Riemsdyk	TOR		88.1	41	47	-1
43	Matt Duchene	COL		87.2	33	28	-10
44	David Pastrnak	BOS		85.6	57	62	13
45	Jeff Carter	LAK		85.4	52	57	7
46	Sean Monahan	CGY		84.8	61	61	15
47	Jonathan Drouin	TBL		82.8	47	53	0
48	Alexander Radulov	MON		82.6	50	50	2
49	Derek Stepan	NYR		82.2	38	40	-11
50	Anze Kopitar	LAK		81.7	44	34	-6
51	J.T. Miller	NYR		81.6	65	75	14
52	Logan Couture	SJS		81.1	53	54	1
53	Steven Stamkos	TBL		81.0	37	32	-16
54	Corey Perry	ANA		80.4	40	31	-14
55	Nazem Kadri	TOR		79.5	59	78	4
56	Alex Galchenyuk	MON		79.0	51	46	-5
57	Brandon Saad	CBJ		78.0	49	45	-8
58	Tyler Johnson	TBL		76.8	77	71	19
59	Mike Hoffman	OTT		76.7	54	56	-5
60	Aleksander Barkov	FLA		76.3	60	44	0
61	Nino Niederreiter	MIN		76.3	75	89	14
62	Nick Foligno	CBJ		76.1	39	41	-23
63	Chris Kreider	NYR		74.6	64	65	1
64	Ryan O'Reilly	BUF		74.1	58	58	-6
65	Kyle Okposo	BUF		73.0	66	63	1
66	Kevin Shattenkirk	WAS	y	72.9	78	88	12
67	Jordan Eberle	EDM		72.3	55	48	-12
68	Kyle Turris	OTT		72.1	69	76	1
69	Charlie Coyle	MIN		71.9	63	68	-6
70	Sam Reinhart	BUF		71.9	72	79	2
71	Brayden Schenn	PHI		70.8	62	52	-9
72	William Nylander	TOR		70.5	90	93	18
73	T.J. Oshie	WAS		70.4	76	103	3
74	John Klingberg	DAL	y	69.7	83	106	9
75	Mats Zuccarello	NYR		69.0	71	70	-4
76	Marcus Johansson	WAS		68.5	82	85	6
77	Wayne Simmonds	PHI		67.5	67	60	-10
78	Viktor Arvidsson	NSH		67.1	117	148	39
79	Joe Thornton	SJS		66.6	74	51	-5
80	Dustin Byfuglien	WPG	y	66.1	91	97	11
81	Kevin Hayes	NYR		64.6	85	83	4
82	Vincent Trocheck	FLA		64.3	94	110	12
83	Bo Horvat	VAN		63.7	95	96	12
84	Kris Letang	PIT	y	63.7	99	64	15
85	Henrik Zetterberg	DET		63.4	106	104	21
86	Jonathan Huberdeau	FLA		61.9	88	66	2
87	Jeff Skinner	CAR		61.8	68	67	-19
88	Patrice Bergeron	BOS		61.5	153	153	65
89	Oliver Ekman-Larsson	ARI	y	60.5	97	95	8
90	Jaden Schwartz	STL		59.8	80	94	-10
91	Milan Lucic	EDM		59.7	87	74	-4
92	Duncan Keith	CHI	y	59.2	108	115	16
93	P.K. Subban	NSH	y	59.2	100	87	7
94	Roman Josi	NSH	y	58.5	110	98	16
95	Jakob Silfverberg	ANA		58.4	101	113	6
96	Robby Fabbri	STL		58.4	86	72	-10
97	Eric Staal	MIN		58.4	73	81	-24
98	Bryan Little	WPG		58.3	103	135	5
99	Ryan Kesler	ANA		57.7	96	102	-3
100	Rickard Rakell	ANA		57.4	70	69	-30
101	Tyler Toffoli	LAK		57.3	104	59	3
102	Drew Doughty	LAK	y	57.2	105	109	3
103	Jonathan Marchessault	FLA		57.1	92	82	-11
104	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	EDM		56.8	98	86	-6
105	Patric Hornqvist	PIT		56.5	81	84	-24
106	Victor Rask	CAR		56.3	79	90	-27
107	Teuvo Teravainen	CAR		56.2	84	92	-23
108	Kyle Palmieri	NJD		55.8	116	128	8
109	Conor Sheary	PIT		55.5	112	123	3
110	Sam Bennett	CGY		55.3	89	73	-21
111	Matthew Tkachuk	CGY		54.7	113	158	2
112	Gabriel Landeskog	COL		54.5	93	91	-19
113	David Krejci	BOS		54.5	134	132	21
114	Mikko Koivu	MIN		53.7	147	161	33
115	Max Domi	ARI		52.3	120	122	5
116	Dougie Hamilton	CGY	y	51.9	121	133	5
117	Andre Burakovsky	WAS		51.8	107	130	-10
118	Elias Lindholm	CAR		51.5	133	159	15
119	Derick Brassard	OTT		51.3	122	125	3
120	Tanner Pearson	LAK		50.9	149	149	29
121	Tyler Bozak	TOR		50.7	123	146	2
122	Jason Spezza	DAL		50.3	111	101	-11
123	John Carlson	WAS	y	49.6	130	107	7
124	Shea Weber	MON	y	49.5	119	120	-5
125	Torey Krug	BOS	y	49.5	161	196	36
126	Mika Zibanejad	NYR		49.4	114	114	-12
127	Ryan Spooner	BOS		49.1	141	144	14
128	Anthony Mantha	DET		48.7	127	121	-1
129	Ondrej Palat	TBL		48.6	132	108	3
130	Artem Anisimov	CHI		48.1	102	100	-28
131	Jason Zucker	MIN		47.3	151	162	20
132	Sam Gagner	CBJ		46.7	109	99	-23
133	Sebastian Aho	CAR		46.5	150	150	17
134	James Neal	NSH		46.4	136	118	2
135	Radim Vrbata	ARI		46.3	168	180	33
136	Seth Jones	CBJ	y	46.1	129	147	-7
137	Jesse Puljujarvi	EDM		45.9	137	116	0
138	Zach Werenski	CBJ	y	45.3	135	124	-3
139	Rasmus Ristolainen	BUF	y	45.2	140	145	1
140	Bobby Ryan	OTT		44.8	125	134	-15
141	Justin Schultz	PIT	y	44.8	142	177	1
142	Gustav Nyquist	DET		43.3	118	117	-24
143	Tomas Tatar	DET		43.2	131	131	-12
144	Thomas Vanek	FLA		42.7	143	155	-1
145	Ryan Strome	NYI		42.7	148	142	3
146	Zach Parise	MIN		41.5	128	126	-18
147	Tyson Barrie	COL	y	40.8	144	136	-3
148	Evander Kane	BUF		40.7	152	172	4
149	Mikael Backlund	CGY		40.6	164	181	15
150	Josh Bailey	NYI		40.6	158	185	8
151	Adam Henrique	NJD		40.3	145	138	-6
152	Dylan Larkin	DET		38.6	126	129	-26
153	Alex Pietrangelo	STL	y	37.6	154	157	1
154	Anders Lee	NYI		36.8	171	186	17
155	Alexander Steen	STL		36.6	156	140	1
156	Mikko Rantanen	COL		36.1	163	171	7
157	Sven Bärtschi	VAN		36.0	146	160	-11
158	Ryan Suter	MIN	y	35.6	155	156	-3
159	Keith Yandle	FLA	y	35.6	170	127	11
160	Jason Pominville	MIN		35.0	248	250	88
161	Henrik Sedin	VAN		34.9	138	112	-23
162	Brock Nelson	NYI		34.3	184	152	22
163	Mathieu Perreault	WPG		33.7	232	234	69
164	Ryan McDonagh	NYR	y	33.6	162	154	-2
165	Rick Nash	NYR		32.4	124	119	-41
166	Vladislav Namestnikov	TBL		32.4	182	141	16
167	Jake Gardiner	TOR	y	32.0	167	174	0
168	Paul Stastny	STL		31.8	175	188	7
169	Dylan Strome	ARI		31.8	181	179	12
170	Christian Dvorak	ARI		31.7	183	168	13
171	Richard Panik	CHI		31.5	300	298	129
172	Colin Wilson	NSH		31.4	185	175	13
173	David Perron	STL		31.1	177	194	4
174	Nick Leddy	NYI	y	31.0	189	212	15
175	Michael Frolik	CGY		30.9	187	190	12
176	Shayne Gostisbehere	PHI	y	30.9	159	151	-17
177	Alex Killorn	TBL		30.8	172	137	-5
178	Tomas Hertl	SJS		30.8	160	167	-18
179	Connor Brown	TOR		30.8	180	216	1
180	Daniel Sedin	VAN		30.6	115	111	-65
181	Marian Hossa	CHI		29.7	176	195	-5
182	Justin Faulk	CAR	y	29.4	188	169	6
183	Ryan Dzingel	OTT		29.3	174	184	-9
184	Brendan Gallagher	MON		29.2	139	105	-45
185	Patrick Maroon	EDM		28.9	190	227	5
186	Matt Niskanen	WAS	y	28.5	196	274	10
187	Morgan Rielly	TOR	y	28.2	169	143	-18
188	Jordan Staal	CAR		27.3	194	223	6
189	Valtteri Filppula	PHI		27.0	157	164	-32
190	Travis Zajac	NJD		26.8	246	218	56
191	Cam Fowler	ANA	y	26.8	173	170	-18
192	Jean-Gabriel Pageau	OTT		26.6	192	189	0
193	Mikhail Grigorenko	COL		26.3	197	207	4
194	Ryan Ellis	NSH	y	26.2	214	230	20
195	David Backes	BOS		26.0	200	187	5
196	Jake Guentzel	PIT		26.0	201	225	5
197	Mathew Barzal	NYI		25.9	202	209	5
198	Oliver Bjorkstrand	CBJ		25.8	203	211	5
199	Justin Williams	WAS		25.7	233	291	34
200	Michael Grabner	NYR		25.6	205	224	5
201	Travis Konecny	PHI		25.3	166	163	-35
202	Anthony Duclair	ARI		25.3	206	200	4
203	Sean Couturier	PHI		25.0	199	183	-4
204	Andreas Athanasiou	DET		25.0	198	219	-6
205	Mark Giordano	CGY	y	24.9	193	198	-12
206	Aaron Ekblad	FLA	y	24.8	209	204	3
207	Martin Hanzal	MIN		24.7	247	199	40
208	Jacob Trouba	WPG	y	24.7	210	253	2
209	Pierre-Luc Dubois	CBJ		24.6	211	178	2
210	Devin Shore	DAL		24.4	238	259	28
211	Nick Schmaltz	CHI		24.0	269	271	58
212	Brayden Point	TBL		23.9	208	208	-4
213	Nick Bonino	PIT		23.8	186	173	-27
214	Bryan Rust	PIT		23.7	207	242	-7
215	Brent Seabrook	CHI	y	23.6	213	202	-2
216	Nick Bjugstad	FLA		23.4	215	201	-1
217	Jimmy Vesey	NYR		22.8	178	139	-39
218	Patrick Marleau	SJS		22.8	362	401	144
219	Frans Nielsen	DET		22.5	179	182	-40
220	Kevin Fiala	NSH		22.5	218	226	-2
221	Kyle Connor	WPG		22.5	220	215	-1
222	Nick Ritchie	ANA		22.3	222	229	0
223	Reilly Smith	FLA		22.2	224	192	1
224	Matt Dumba	MIN	y	22.1	225	248	1
225	Oscar Klefbom	EDM	y	22.0	319	346	94
226	Colton Parayko	STL	y	21.8	227	222	1
227	Artturi Lehkonen	MON		21.2	221	244	-6
228	Tobias Rieder	ARI		21.1	230	255	2
229	Nikolay Goldobin	VAN		21.1	231	233	2
230	Clayton Keller	ARI		21.0	235	237	5
231	Nail Yakupov	STL		20.8	223	214	-8
232	Jakub Vrana	WAS		20.7	237	238	5
233	Joel Eriksson Ek	MIN		20.7	239	239	6
234	Kevin Labanc	SJS		20.7	240	240	6
235	Scott Hartnell	CBJ		20.2	165	166	-70
236	Tyler Ennis	BUF		20.0	219	228	-17
237	Sven Andrighetto	COL		20.0	243	252	6
238	Zach Hyman	TOR		19.5	212	231	-26
239	Dmitry Orlov	WAS	y	19.3	195	272	-44
240	Pavel Buchnevich	NYR		19.1	229	260	-11
241	Valeri Nichushkin	DAL		18.9	244	243	3
242	Erik Haula	MIN		18.9	250	261	8
243	Pavel Zacha	NJD		18.8	245	245	2
244	Damon Severson	NJD	y	18.7	253	213	9
245	Brendan Perlini	ARI		18.6	254	287	9
246	Drake Caggiula	EDM		18.6	255	257	9
247	Timo Meier	SJS		18.6	256	247	9
248	Tomas Plekanec	MON		18.5	204	191	-44
249	Denis Malgin	FLA		18.2	260	262	11
250	Alex Tuch	MIN		18.0	262	258	12
251	Alec Martinez	LAK	y	17.9	226	217	-25
252	Charles Hudon	MON		17.9	263	264	11
253	Brett Ritchie	DAL		17.9	264	256	11
254	Nicolas Petan	WPG		17.8	251	251	-3
255	Frank Vatrano	BOS		17.8	265	265	10
256	Brandon Sutter	VAN		17.4	242	249	-14
257	Lawson Crouse	ARI		17.4	267	268	10
258	Colin White	OTT		17.3	268	270	10
259	Carl Soderberg	COL		17.2	258	193	-1
260	Brock Boeser	VAN		17.1	270	273	10
261	Nikita Zaitsev	TOR	y	16.9	287	304	26
262	Mike Cammalleri	NJD		16.9	191	206	-71
263	Austin Czarnik	BOS		16.7	274	275	11
264	Sonny Milano	CBJ		16.6	276	276	12
265	Ivan Provorov	PHI	y	16.6	249	289	-16
266	Shane Prince	NYI		16.5	272	221	6
267	Tyler Motte	CHI		16.4	273	263	6
268	Mike Fisher	NSH		16.1	281	328	13
269	Zack Smith	OTT		16.1	252	491	-17
270	Danton Heinen	BOS		16.0	282	281	12
271	Francis Perron	OTT		15.9	271	269	0
272	Paul Byron	MON		15.8	217	205	-55
273	Brady Skjei	NYR	y	15.8	372	399	99
274	Jayce Hawryluk	FLA		15.8	285	284	11
275	Brendan Leipsic	TOR		15.7	286	285	11
276	Andrew Ladd	NYI		15.6	236	210	-40
277	Alexander Nylander	BUF		15.6	288	280	11
278	Boone Jenner	CBJ		15.5	234	165	-44
279	Mike Green	DET	y	15.5	241	278	-38
280	Sami Vatanen	ANA	y	15.3	216	197	-64
281	Patrick Eaves	ANA		15.3	275	369	-6
282	Ivan Barbashev	STL		15.3	290	290	8
283	Jared Spurgeon	MIN	y	15.3	324	359	41
284	Evgeny Svechnikov	DET		15.2	292	293	8
285	Jared McCann	FLA		15.0	293	277	8
286	Nick Holden	NYR	y	15.0	294	329	8
287	Joonas Donskoi	SJS		14.9	257	236	-30
288	Hunter Shinkaruk	CGY		14.8	283	283	-5
289	Nathan Beaulieu	MON	y	14.8	259	308	-30
290	Anthony Beauvillier	NYI		14.8	295	296	5
291	Anton Rodin	VAN		14.8	284	294	-7
292	TJ Brodie	CGY	y	14.6	298	266	6
293	Nick Cousins	PHI		14.6	299	297	6
294	Chris Tierney	SJS		14.4	301	299	7
295	Mikkel Boedker	SJS		14.4	302	301	7
296	Kenny Agostino	STL		14.3	NR	NR	NEW
297	Andrej Sekera	EDM	y	14.1	261	318	-36
298	Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson	BOS		14.0	306	309	8
299	Alan Quine	NYI		13.9	291	292	-8
300	Nikita Scherbak	MON		13.6	356	305	56


March	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	Feb	Jan	Change
218	Patrick Marleau	SJS		22.8	362	401	144
405	Mark Streit	PIT	y	6.6	543	471	138
171	Richard Panik	CHI		31.5	300	298	129
273	Brady Skjei	NYR	y	15.8	372	399	99
225	Oscar Klefbom	EDM	y	22.0	319	346	94
160	Jason Pominville	MIN		35.0	248	250	88
408	Jannik Hansen	SJS		6.3	483	412	75
163	Mathieu Perreault	WPG		33.7	232	234	69
88	Patrice Bergeron	BOS		61.5	153	153	65

March	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	Feb	Jan	Change
582	Mike Ribeiro	NSH		-3.9	280	220	-302
515	Derek Ryan	CAR		1.9	346	403	-169
369	Loui Eriksson	VAN		9.0	228	176	-141
529	Patrick Sharp	DAL		1.2	396	475	-133
538	Jiri Hudler	DAL		0.3	429	424	-109
417	Jeff Petry	MON	y	5.9	329	496	-88
342	Brandon Dubinsky	CBJ		10.9	266	241	-76
262	Mike Cammalleri	NJD		16.9	191	206	-71

March	Player	Team	DEF?	Rating	Feb	Jan	Change
297	Kenny Agostino	STL		14.3	NR	NR	NEW

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Mathieu 2017-03-06 at 12:36Log in to Reply

Shouldn’t Valeri Nichushkin be disqualified from that list? It’s a bit insulting for players ranked below…
- Dobber 2017-03-06 at 12:44Log in to Reply
  
  He’s owned in all three of my keeper leagues, and I would happily trade one of my lesser guys for him.
  - BrianSTC 2017-03-06 at 13:09Log in to Reply
    
    When do you expect him back in the league ?
  - number54 2017-03-06 at 17:26Log in to Reply
    
    Well, by that standard, where do you rank Kovalchuk?
    - Dobber 2017-03-06 at 18:28Log in to Reply
      
      I dropped Kovalchuk in one league in January. Another league still has him owned. I think Nich is back in 2018-19.
      
      I think Kovalchuk is worthy of cracking this list, or close to it (and he is)
number54 2017-03-06 at 17:25Log in to Reply

I feel like these rankings have become far too based on “what have you done for me lately?”, and don’t reflect keeper pool values. For instance, there’s no way that even an injured Stamkos would get traded for Logan Couture. Not even if it won me a championship would I make that deal in a keeper pool (not that I own Stamkos, but he’s a top 10 player, whether he misses the whole season or not). Or hey, how about Stamkos for Corey Perry — you know, that former superstar who’s been maligned in 4 of every 5 ramblings since Christmas?
So, I can appreciate that the ratings tweak upwards or downwards based on current performance, but I think right now that’s eclipsing the long-term expected values of players, and in KEEPER POOL rankings, that should never be the case.
- Dobber 2017-03-06 at 18:25Log in to Reply
  
  Thanks for the comment
  They are definitely based on what have you done for me lately – because that’s how owners think. I’m very active in trade talks in three different leagues in this format and my goodness, slumping players don’t get much respect at all and hot players get a ton. In a keeper!
  
  That being said – Stamkos is overrated. You’ve known me to say this for years and years. I had constant Malkin vs. Stamkos arguments with readers, and even other websites made fun of me for taking the Malkin side (I was right though! Ha!). Malkin was always part of this Big 3 and readers wanted me to make Stamkos into a Big 4. Now we see that Stamkos relied on St. Louis. And not only is the per-game production down, but now he’s a Band-Aid Boy too. Here are the facts: 57, 40, 72, 64 and 20 – that’s production over five seasons. That’s terrible! And if a five-year track record isn’t going to take him out of your Top 10 then I don’t know what will!
  
  In a keeper league, Stamkos does still hold a lot of sway. But in this kind of league – with no IR and it’s total points – how does he have more value than Couture? Any team that is competing for prize money can’t use him – his 20 points on a pro team would eliminate you from contention. Pro teams need at least 40 points from every player right now. So with five or six teams in your league not interested in Stamkos…how much value could he possible have? Half the owners in your league aren’t interested! Sure, they’ll be interested in the summer – so next month Stamkos shoots back up into the Top 15 or 20. But for this season, especially now and in this kind of league, this is his value.
  
  In one league, Stamkos was just traded for Joe Pavelski – and that was a deal that I criticized for giving up too much to get Stamkos. Stamkos is a 70-game, 65-point player now. Proven for five straight years (and that’s being generous), and the Stamkos owner just got all of Pavelski’s points when frankly I would have almost traded Stamkos for Pavelski even if Stamkos was healthy and had 50 points!
  
  Anyway, that’s my take. Stamkos still has his lovers though, that’s for sure. I’m not one.
  - estarr31 2017-03-07 at 13:13Log in to Reply
    
    In my keeper league, 2nd place team traded Stamkos away for Giroux to a team that’s not in the playoff race. He’s in win-now mode and needs the immediate help. Otherwise, that’s an awful trade in a normal year but now? It does make sense.
    - number54 2017-03-09 at 13:05Log in to Reply
      
      Okay, but would you trade Giroux for Couture?
      - Dobber 2017-03-09 at 13:48
        
        That’s how you win. If everyone had the ‘win when you have a chance’ mentality then they would win more. Instead of the ‘naw, I’ll just build for next year rather than lose the deal and give up my future’ mentality.
        
        Just to see…I put Stamkos in as healthy and gave him 70 points for this season. He comes in at 24th when I do that because I had increased his injury-risk factor. I wouldn’t bet even $100 on him ever getting 80 points again. People acquiring Stamkos are acquiring a name. Similar if they acquire Corey Perry and expect an 85-point guy…they can’t acquire Stamkos and expect a 90-point guy.
        
        Now is not the time to acquire Stamkos. Not until more people come down to earth about their expectations on him. If he could guarantee me 80 games a year (as much as a player can – like a Wheeler or a Marchand), then he’s a Top 10 guy. But he’s going to miss 10 games a year at min
      - number54 2017-03-09 at 15:25
        
        In his career? I’d take that bet, easily. One healthy season next to Kucherov and it’s in the bag.
      - Dobber 2017-03-09 at 21:43
        
        See? Even you believe that Stamkos needs help (Kucherov) doing anything productive
      - number54 2017-03-16 at 09:26
        
        I think he needs help to get the kind of numbers he did when he had St Louis to his right. Without that, I think he’s a .92 p/g player, which should be good for somewhere in the top 30, at LEAST.
  - number54 2017-03-09 at 13:21Log in to Reply
    
    Stamkos has averaged 0.92 points per game for the 4 years since St Louis left (if you go over the past 5 his ppg go up). Over that span, 42 players have reached that mark in any season (10+ games played)– translating to only 11 players on an average year. So put him dead last on that list if you want, because he’s a band-aid boy. That’s still 11th in the league (currently owned by Scheifele at 132.6) By all means, drop his value by 25% if you want, because he’s injured. That still puts him at a value of ~100 which would have him 30th in the league; still a cool 20 points and 20 ranks higher than Couture.
estarr31 2017-03-07 at 13:10Log in to Reply

How should we value Kris Letang moving forward? When healthy, he can be the 3rd best D in the league but obviously he’s going to miss games. 65-70 games from him is still worth a lot. And if he ever does figure out how to stay healthy he could have a huge year, especially with his multi-category impact. With his age, he should be at a high level over the next two years at least.

Through some big trades this year I’m fortunate to now have Karlsson, Byfuglien, and Letang on my roster and I’m thinking of keeping them along with Crosby and Marchand (keep 6).
Question would be, should I keep Letang and then only one of P. Kessel, B.Wheeler, J.Carter? Or should I keep two of the latter over Letang?

In a league that scores blocks, offensive defenseman are so valuable in this format, I have no problem keeping 3 D (start 5 Def with 9 Offense).
- Dobber 2017-03-12 at 09:58Log in to Reply
  
  Offer both Buff and Letang around – whoever gets you more in a trade, move him. I’m not as certain that Buffy rebounds as you say. Letang is touch and go – next five years he probably plays 60- games twice and 70 games three times. That’s just what you get from him, but he’s close to a point per game when he plays.
  - starz31 2017-03-29 at 13:16Log in to Reply
    
    I don’t think Buff has a long-future ahead of him at his age and with the minutes on his body. But, for next year? Maybe two more years? He could still be provide a lot of value in a multi-cat league, even with less offensive stats. I still assume a decline, but not a huge decline just yet. I look at Chara as a fair comp, and he was scoring 70+ points in his mid 30s.
hockeyarni 2017-03-07 at 13:23Log in to Reply

Am I missing the Ageless Wonder on this list? Not a top 300 player yet plays top line and 2nd PP unit.
Should I even have him on my roster?! My other options for drops would be J. Staal, Vrbata, Perreault
Thanks for the help
- Dobber 2017-03-12 at 09:56Log in to Reply
  
  Jagr is just off the list, and out of those four players I would drop Jagr
Jordan 2017-03-11 at 22:26Log in to Reply

Sorry…(this coming from a leaf fan)

David Pastrnak:

Age: 20
Goals: T-12th
Shots: 10th (less GP than anyone ranked higher)
PPG – 15th
Dobber Keeper Rank: 44th

Notes: Proven on line /w vets (Marchand/Bergeron) and drives a line without them (Krejci/Whoever)

Lowest ranked player with a higher ppg than Pastrnak is Eichel at 23rd. I’d just would like to understand this ranking system a bit more, especially in a points only league? Guys similar to him in points and age are so much higher it’s confusing, even guys he is currently outpacing.
- Dobber 2017-03-12 at 09:55Log in to Reply
  
  Sure, no problem Jordan.
  
  To me, Pastrnak is hitting his upside. Whereas similar players above him have a higher upside. To me. But the main reason that has knocked him a little lower – in three pro seasons he’s missed 7 games (this year), 25 games (last year) and about 10 games the year prior. In points-only leagues, if a 75-point guy misses 10 games per year, then really he’s only a 65-point guy, right? The risk to miss games is there, and it’s a pretty ‘reliable’ risk – you can almost count on him missing games. And until he plays 80 or even 78 games, he’s going to have that hanging over him
  - Jordan 2017-03-16 at 01:11Log in to Reply
    
    Hey Dobber,
    
    I can’t argue against his injury history, it’s there and it’s real. However, looking at the actual injuries I think we can pretty safely assume that an 18 yr old at 165lbs suffering minor injuries (or serious ones, RNH, McDavid etc) is a normal thing. Other injuries he’s suffered like a cracked bone in his foot came from taking or blocking a shot off his skate, that is just bad puck luck.
    
    If i though he was 5 or 10 spots misplaced in the rankings I wouldn’t even post to be honest ha, I just clearly believe in him a lot and I think everyone will come around to him if they haven’t already. He is now at 62 pts in 63 games (30G) and IMO at 20 yrs old has not reached his ceiling.
    - Dobber 2017-03-16 at 01:46Log in to Reply
      
      Yes, but when I posted this article he had 51 points in 55 games. Obviously each month a young player with no track record would move upward with continued production. I won’t shoot a player from 150th to 20th in November because he had 12 points in 12 games. But I’d move him from 150th to 110th (for example). And so on, each month.
      You see he went 62, 57, 44. Next month I’m guessing he’s 35th. But I won’t give a guy a Top 20 rating without any track record. Also, don’t overrate his upside. He’s exceeded expectations (playing with marchand) and I don’t believe there is another gear. My opinion.

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